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  • The White House plan to reduce gun violence

    Here it is:



    A few questions to discuss:

    1. Is there anything in here you don't support, and why?
    2. Will these proposals, if enacted and executed, meaningfully reduce gun violence?
    3. Which of these proposals have a reasonable chance of becoming federal law?
    4. Which of these proposals, if passed into law, would potentially fall in the courts upon a 2nd Amendment challenge?

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    I friend of mine of FB who is ex-military, leans conservative and lives in texas had this write-up:

    Finally weighing in on gun rights and gun control. From what I read, the President put down 23 points of legislation. Most of which are terrific, some give me concern. He then asked Congress to make legislate on the hardest subjects and gave his thoughts on what he wants to see. Here's my take
    1. "Issue a presidential memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system."
    Sounds good. Define relevant data
    2. "Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.".
    Sure
    3. "Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system."
    Make it a Law, there’s your incentive.
    4. "Direct the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks."
    Yes!
    5. "Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun."
    Yes!
    6. "Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers."
    Yes!
    7. "Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign."
    Don’t waste the government’s money. There are already tons of resources available. Commercial entities can jump on this opportunity without taxpayer dollars.
    8. "Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission)."
    Sure
    9. "Issue a presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations."
    Sure
    10. "Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement."
    Sure
    11. "Nominate an ATF director."
    No Shit, the spot has been vacant for what, 7 years?
    12. "Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations."
    Yes!
    13. "Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime."
    Enforce the laws we already have? Yes, I’m always for it.
    14. "Issue a presidential memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence."
    The CDC?
    15. "Direct the attorney general to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies."
    Seems like a waste of time and money. If the goal is to reduce accidental discharges of firearms, there are already tons of safety measures out there that are completely sufficient. People just don’t use them.
    16. "Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes."
    If this is tied to mental illness, then yes. But if I have the sniffles, then a Doctor doesn’t have the right to ask.
    17. "Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities."
    Sure.
    18. "Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers."
    If this means an armed guard, then Yes!
    19. "Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education."
    Yes!
    20. "Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover."
    Sure
    21. "Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges."
    No idea what this means.
    22. "Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations."
    Not sure what this means
    23. "Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health."
    Yes!

    He then asked congress to do the following, which was NOT in his executive order.

    – restore a ban on "military-style assault weapons" (the ban expired in 2004).
    That legislature was crap and only targeted a few riles. I’ll withhold judgment until they define “military style”. The military uses bolt action, semi-automatics, automatics, pistols, etc. What are we left with? Muzzle loading black powder rifles, crossbows, and slingshots? THAT would be unconstitutional.

    – ban gun magazines with capacities of more than 10 rounds
    A 10 round magazine MAY give a few heroic people the chance to sacrifice themselves in an attempt to stop a deranged killer. Not likely, but at least there’s a chance. I’m OK with that.

    - toughen penalties on people who sell guns to those who can't have them
    Make them suffer!
    I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...

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