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  • "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

    "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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    • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
      Paul Ryan in Ohio just now: “As Joe Biden might say, it’s great to be here in Nevada!”
      — Chris Moody (@Chris_Moody) August 16, 2012
      Weak...at least choose a bordering state like VA/NC

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      • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
        He's obviously still getting the hang of this. Any time one VP nominee spends dumping on the other VP nominee is wasted breath. Ryan's job is to lift Romney and damage Obama.

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        • I think the potential problem there is that the brighter Ryan looks, the dimmer Romney will look. The sharper Ryan looks on policy issues, the duller Romney will look with his "no policy" strategy.

          The GOP has had a tendency to overplay its hand over the last couple of years, so the way they use Ryan will be important. He can help them a lot if he does as B-Fly says and spends his time lifting Romney. They won't be able to resist having him attack Obama, but firing up the base is not necessary at this point. The base couldn't get fired up much more than they are. But the temptation will be there, and it will be interesting to see if they succumb to it.

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          • Originally posted by B-Fly View Post
            He's obviously still getting the hang of this. Any time one VP nominee spends dumping on the other VP nominee is wasted breath. Ryan's job is to lift Romney and damage Obama.
            I highly doubt substantial time was wasted on Biden. He's not worth it.
            "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

            "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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            • Originally posted by Lucky View Post
              I think the potential problem there is that the brighter Ryan looks, the dimmer Romney will look. The sharper Ryan looks on policy issues, the duller Romney will look with his "no policy" strategy.

              The GOP has had a tendency to overplay its hand over the last couple of years, so the way they use Ryan will be important. He can help them a lot if he does as B-Fly says and spends his time lifting Romney. They won't be able to resist having him attack Obama, but firing up the base is not necessary at this point. The base couldn't get fired up much more than they are. But the temptation will be there, and it will be interesting to see if they succumb to it.
              To the contrary, the base is blasč and apathetical. Ryan is exactly to fire up the base. He is the Tea Party guy of the two.

              J
              Ad Astra per Aspera

              Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

              GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

              Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

              I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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              • Originally posted by Lucky View Post
                The GOP has had a tendency to overplay its hand over the last couple of years, so the way they use Ryan will be important. He can help them a lot if he does as B-Fly says and spends his time lifting Romney. They won't be able to resist having him attack Obama, but firing up the base is not necessary at this point. The base couldn't get fired up much more than they are. But the temptation will be there, and it will be interesting to see if they succumb to it.
                I'm guessing that when you express concern about The GOP "not being able to resist" and "succumbing to the temptation" to use Ryan to attack Obama, you find it inapproprate or distasteful when presidential candidates use their vice presidents to launch unworthy attacks on the other team's candidate. Did you find it inappropriate or distateful that The Democrats were unable to resist/ succumbed to using Biden to attack Romney with that race-baiting faux-black preacher/ slavemaster bit?

                I'm always fascinated when people feel compelled to express concern about bad behavior from the opposing team, but then have no comment about the same behavior from their own team. Just curious why that is.
                "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
                "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
                "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."

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                • Originally posted by B-Fly View Post
                  He's obviously still getting the hang of this. Any time one VP nominee spends dumping on the other VP nominee is wasted breath. Ryan's job is to lift Romney and damage Obama.
                  Indeed. That was clear example of his amateurism. Nobody opens a long, boring policy speech with a light-hearted joke. Why, it's unheard of! It's inconceivable that he would waste three seconds delivering a one-liner. He needs to stick strictly to policy like Joe Biden does in his speeches. Harrumph! Harrumph!

                  LOL. You guys kill me...
                  "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
                  "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
                  "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."

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                  • You guys crack me up discussing politics Does it matter who wins? What will change for the better for most Americans if Romney wins? if Obama wins?
                    "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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                    • Personally, I like the Ryan pick. It indicates a seriousness about attacking issues that matter to me - fiscal management and role of government. I want a lot more specifics, but at least it's a good signal that these are the issues that will receive primary focus, vs. the scattershot clown show that the GOP was under the George W. Bush presidency.

                      I'm not sure how wise it was politically, though.
                      "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
                      "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
                      "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."

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                      • Originally posted by senorsheep View Post
                        I'm always fascinated when people feel compelled to express concern about bad behavior from the opposing team, but then have no comment about the same behavior from their own team. Just curious why that is.
                        Good ol human nature at it's worst. Just like in sports. My team is the best! Your team sucks!

                        For the majority of the population once they pick their side they automatically picked the best side in their minds and they can do no wrong.

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                        • Originally posted by Roto Rooter View Post
                          Good ol human nature at it's worst. Just like in sports. My team is the best! Your team sucks!

                          For the majority of the population once they pick their side they automatically picked the best side in their minds and they can do no wrong.

                          what if they are cubs fans?



                          I still wonder how many people have their minds changed either way by the VP pick.

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                          • sick burn

                            RT @ppppolls: Paul Ryan has better favorability numbers than Mitt Romney on the first night of our poll in...Massachusetts

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                            • Yup. Sick. As dumb as the Palin pick was, I suspect the something similar happened to McCain, even in his home state. I would be more concerned about this pumping his own left leaning state. Ryan was the new exciting flavor added to this election recipe, of course the righties are going to be excited for the addition to the race.
                              I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.

                              Ronald Reagan

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                              • What an absolute, hypocritical, lying, fraud...

                                After repeated denials, Paul Ryan has admitted he requested stimulus cash even after sharply criticizing the program.
                                As recently as Wednesday in Ohio, Mitt Romney's running mate told ABC's Cincinnati affiliate, WCPO, he did not.
                                "I never asked for stimulus," Ryan said. "I don't recall… so I really can't comment on it. I opposed the stimulus because it doesn't work, it didn't work."


                                Two years ago, during an interview on WBZ's NewsRadio he was asked by a caller if he "accepted any money" into his district. Ryan said he did not.
                                "I'm not one [of those] people who votes for something then writes to the government to ask them to send us money. I did not request any stimulus money," the congressman answered.
                                But as we've now learned, Ryan did write letters. He did request stimulus funds.

                                "The Olympics may be over but Paul Ryan could have gotten a gold medal in hypocrisy," a senior administration official told ABC's Jake Tapper. "As someone who spends all day every day railing against government spending, but then secretly seeks millions in funds for pet projects, he is as Washington as it gets."
                                In 2009, Ryan wrote to Energy Secretary Steven Chu and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis asking for stimulus money to cover costs on two energy conservation projects in his home state of Wisconsin. In the letter, Ryan said the funds would help create jobs and reduce "energy consumption" in the state. At least one of the companies received the requested cash.
                                "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
                                - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

                                "Your shitty future continues to offend me."
                                -Warren Ellis

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