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  • Originally posted by Hornsby View Post
    This bill is a fucking disgrace, and Paul Ryan, Donald Trump, and all who back this should be ashamed.
    It will be their undoing if they pass it.
    If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
    - Terence McKenna

    Bullshit is everywhere. - George Carlin (& Jon Stewart)

    How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige

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    • Originally posted by DMT View Post
      That's sickening.
      Yes, it is. This issue is one I really keep in my cross hairs because it such an impactful part of my family's finances. I read lots of stories about health insurance. My favorite comes from Texas. A woman works for a major corporation in Texas. Her job is the Benefits Administrator. She picks the health insurance options for her company. She shared that she was her son's baseball game. During an at bat he was beaned in the head. Concerned about a concussion, an ambulance was called. The driver asked which hospital to take her son as they were basically in between two hospitals. Knowing that one was in-network, she chose that one. A few weeks later she started getting bills. Her total cost for the emergency room visit was over $45,000, as the hospital contracted with an ER Doctor group that was out of network.

      How the heck is someone suppose to know that.

      And yes what the Republicans are offering as a replacement is repugnant.
      "Looks like I picked a bad day to give up sniffing glue.
      - Steven McCrosky (Lloyd Bridges) in Airplane

      i have epiphanies like that all the time. for example i was watching a basketball game today and realized pom poms are like a pair of tits. there's 2 of them. they're round. they shake. women play with them. thus instead of having two, cheerleaders have four boobs.
      - nullnor, speaking on immigration law in AZ.

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      • Originally posted by DMT View Post
        It will be their undoing if they pass it.
        Maybe they are betting those affected most by it will die before the next election due to lack of coverage. A macabre joke, but also very sadly, there is some truth to that possibility.

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        • Originally posted by In the Corn View Post
          Yes, it is. This issue is one I really keep in my cross hairs because it such an impactful part of my family's finances. I read lots of stories about health insurance. My favorite comes from Texas. A woman works for a major corporation in Texas. Her job is the Benefits Administrator. She picks the health insurance options for her company. She shared that she was her son's baseball game. During an at bat he was beaned in the head. Concerned about a concussion, an ambulance was called. The driver asked which hospital to take her son as they were basically in between two hospitals. Knowing that one was in-network, she chose that one. A few weeks later she started getting bills. Her total cost for the emergency room visit was over $45,000, as the hospital contracted with an ER Doctor group that was out of network.

          How the heck is someone suppose to know that.

          And yes what the Republicans are offering as a replacement is repugnant.
          This is a good opportunity for Baldgriff or CBB to explain to us how a "free market" or libertarian health care system would address this incident. Or maybe poor people just shouldn't have their kids play baseball.
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          • Turns out the White House has it's own analysis of the Bill that shows that 26 million people, not 24 million, would lose coverage over the next decade.
            "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
            - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

            "Your shitty future continues to offend me."
            -Warren Ellis

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            • Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
              This is a good opportunity for Baldgriff or CBB to explain to us how a "free market" or libertarian health care system would address this incident. Or maybe poor people just shouldn't have their kids play baseball.
              what does this have to do with free market health care?
              "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

              "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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              • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
                what does this have to do with free market health care?
                What does anything have to do with free market health care ?
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                The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                George Orwell, 1984

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                • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
                  what does this have to do with free market health care?
                  Free Market Health Care is simple, if you have the money, you get to live in good health, if not you either run up bills you can't pay (being charged more than the going rate because you have to use the Emergency Room for a visit) Or stay unhealthy and die.


                  Great fucking system!
                  If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                  Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                  Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                  • Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
                    What does anything have to do with free market health care ?
                    you brought it up.
                    "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

                    "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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                    • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
                      you brought it up.
                      I said it was a great opportunity for you to explain how libertarian or free market health care would address this incident. So feel free to do so
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                      Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                      The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                      George Orwell, 1984

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                      • Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
                        I said it was a great opportunity for you to explain how libertarian or free market health care would address this incident. So feel free to do so
                        Don't hold your breath
                        If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                        Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                        Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                        • Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
                          I said it was a great opportunity for you to explain how libertarian or free market health care would address this incident. So feel free to do so
                          I'll add that I think it is unacceptable the way it is handled with the current laws. I don't expect it would have been better before Obamacare. So is it acceptable, and if not how should laws be changed to better handle the situation ?
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                          Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                          The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                          George Orwell, 1984

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                          • Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
                            Don't hold your breath
                            I think we can all agree that over half of Americans should be willing to go in to bankruptcy so that their children can play Little League baseball.
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                            Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                            The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                            George Orwell, 1984

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                            • Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
                              I think we can all agree that over half of Americans should be willing to go in to bankruptcy so that their children can play Little League baseball.
                              They do it to play World of Warcraft.............
                              If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                              Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                              Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                              • Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
                                I'll add that I think it is unacceptable the way it is handled with the current laws. I don't expect it would have been better before Obamacare. So is it acceptable, and if not how should laws be changed to better handle the situation ?
                                I like free markets but when companies are hurting people we obviously need govt to step in. Other than that, I'm not sure what you're getting at.

                                Maybe a law the says if the hospital is in network, everything that happens in the ER is in network?
                                "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

                                "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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