Obama reelection 2012

[heyelander]

Yet another terrible decision by Obama.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...etention-obama

President Obama: Listen to the American People, Not Your Advisers

Right now, the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) is moving its way through Congress. The bill contains a dangerous provision that could be read to authorize the military to detain anyone in our country, including U.S. citizens, without charge or trial.

The President’s advisors are recommending that he not veto this legislation despite earlier promises to do so.

The whole world is not a battlefield and, and President Obama should make that clear. Tell the President to veto any bill that contains indefinite detention without charge or trial.

https://secure.aclu.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=3909

[Judge Jude]

Biggest whoppers of 2011 - something for everyone:

http://factcheck.org/2011/12/the-whoppers-of-2011/

• "The new health care law won’t cost many jobs (and they’ll be poorly paying jobs at that).

• Republicans aren’t proposing to “end” Medicare (and Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden has signed onto a modified version of the GOP plan).

• Most of the “millionaires” who would pay higher tax rates under a Democratic proposal aren’t job-creating small-business owners.

• President Obama’s mother didn’t really fight to get health insurance coverage as she was dying.

And there was plenty more spin and deception in 2011.

Obama claimed he pays a lower tax rate than a teacher. Michele Bachmann endorsed a claim that HPV vaccine causes mental retardation. Joe Biden claimed rapes quadrupled in Flint, Mich., after police layoffs. And that’s just some of the nonsense we debunked."

[Wonderboy]

Obama approval rating up to 49%. Thank goodness Boehner seems to be a secret member of his reelection committee.

[PaleoMan]

Obama can take the presidency for all I care. Here take it. It's kind of like trapping a man in a burning car. Fate may actually be smiling on us. The GOP was never the same after the 2 terms of Bush and Obama is following him right into the meat grinder.

[onejayhawk]

Obama approval rating up to 49%. Thank goodness Boehner seems to be a secret member of his reelection committee.

I saw that.

Check out the sample demographics though. 50% more Democrats than Republicans.

J

[Moonlight J]

[chancellor]

Obama approval rating up to 49%. Thank goodness Boehner seems to be a secret member of his reelection committee.

No kidding. When you get this badly outmaneuvered by Harry Reid, it's probably a good sign it's time for the GOP to change House leadership.

[Bob Kohm]

No kidding. When you get this badly outmaneuvered by Harry Reid, it's probably a good sign it's time for the GOP to change House leadership.

I'm not sure it's the leadership that's the problem-- nobody could control the pack of radicals and one trick ponies you folks stuffed the Chamber with last year.

[chancellor]

I'm not sure it's the leadership that's the problem-- nobody could control the pack of radicals and one trick ponies you folks stuffed the Chamber with last year.

I hear what you're saying, but Boehner is the problem in this case. Obama was clear on his view, it was pretty clear the direction of the Senate Dems, and McConnell (and other GOP senators) basically told him they were going to vote for the short-term extention once they got the Keystone section inserted and Obama agreed to sign it. When you're holding the political equivalent of a 10-4 and A-A-K-K-Q is on the board, it might just be a good time to fold.

[Wonderboy]

I hear what you're saying, but Boehner is the problem in this case. Obama was clear on his view, it was pretty clear the direction of the Senate Dems, and McConnell (and other GOP senators) basically told him they were going to vote for the short-term extention once they got the Keystone section inserted and Obama agreed to sign it. When you're holding the political equivalent of a 10-4 and A-A-K-K-Q is on the board, it might just be a good time to fold.

Yeah, I almost didn't recognize Obama this week -- strong, clear in purpose, and didn't back down. If this is how he is going to be during the election season, I hope the season drags on for a few years.

There is nothing good you can say about Boehner's performance this week. First he backs down to a minority of his own membership. And on something that clearly helps the middle class by his own party's admission. Then he folds like a cheap suit in less than 24 hours when the pressure goes on. And he does it in such a way that he'll look even more foolish is he doesn't get the votes on this.

All in all, a good week for the Dems.

[Bob Kohm]

I hear what you're saying, but Boehner is the problem in this case. Obama was clear on his view, it was pretty clear the direction of the Senate Dems, and McConnell (and other GOP senators) basically told him they were going to vote for the short-term extention once they got the Keystone section inserted and Obama agreed to sign it. When you're holding the political equivalent of a 10-4 and A-A-K-K-Q is on the board, it might just be a good time to fold.

I see your point, Chance.

[Don Quixote]

I hear what you're saying, but Boehner is the problem in this case. Obama was clear on his view, it was pretty clear the direction of the Senate Dems, and McConnell (and other GOP senators) basically told him they were going to vote for the short-term extention once they got the Keystone section inserted and Obama agreed to sign it. When you're holding the political equivalent of a 10-4 and A-A-K-K-Q is on the board, it might just be a good time to fold.

I warned everyone about Boehner when the Republicans took control of the House. No core principles beyond keeping power, no ideas, very status quo so long as he stays in power. A measure of the man is that not one of our mutual college classmates to whom I've talked has any memory of the guy, even ones in his major.

[Erik]

I'd certainly remember a guy who cries over everything.

[chancellor]

I see your point, Chance.

I'm glad Boehner folded, mostly for the Keystone provisions. Shoot, I think even you and I can agree a longer SS tax reduction extension will pass before the end of February.

[Bob Kohm]

I'm glad Boehner folded, mostly for the Keystone provisions. Shoot, I think even you and I can agree a longer SS tax reduction extension will pass before the end of February.

Everyone got something out of this-- Obama needed a way out of that stupid maneuver on punting Keystone, the GOP got to limit their losses-- as extensive as they were by the time they limited them, sure, but still. Here's to hoping for another fraught debate in five or six weeks that sees Boehner waffle, the Tea Partiers riot, McConnell calling for things to be done in a sensible way and the GOP hold on the House getting shakier and shakier going into November I now see paths to you folks going back to the Minority-- not easy paths, but paths.