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  • I've got to think serious Democratic senators like Mark Udall cringe every time Harry Reid opens his fool mouth.
    "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
    "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
    "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."

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    • Originally posted by senorsheep View Post
      I've got to think serious Democratic senators like Mark Udall cringe every time Harry Reid opens his fool mouth.
      He's certainly got me cringing. Sheesh. Good on Jon Stewart for seeing it and calling it out.

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      • Originally posted by eldiablo505
        It kills me that there are so few well-spoken progressives on the national stage in this country. Democrats have the freakin' Harry Reids and Al Gores of the country as the face of their party? Ugh. Reid is just terrible for any number of reasons although his role in the Nevada gaming industry was entertaining for a while. Did you know his wife found a bomb attached to the family station wagon after he turned in a guy for attempting to bribe him? Exciting stuff.
        I'm not sure if you agree, but I generally feel that the country's #1 Democrat, President Obama, has been by and large a pretty outstanding face for the Democratic Party. I've never once felt embarrassed as a Democrat, progressive or American by the words or actions of this President. I think the Democrats are in pretty good shape in that regard.

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        • So long as the GOP lets Louis Gohmert get anywhere near a microphone or a reporter, they will maintain the lead in the race for worst spokesperson. If you don't know this guy, it's worth the time just to look him up and read a few of his quotes. He makes Joe Biden seem like George Bernard Shaw.

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          • Apropos of nothing.

            Corrospondance between Winston Churchill and GB Shaw:

            Shaw: Winny, here are tickets to my opening night. Come see the play. Bring a friend if you have one.
            WC: (returning tickets) Cannot make opening night. Will come to the second show, if there is one.

            J
            Ad Astra per Aspera

            Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

            GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

            Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

            I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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            • The founder of Citigroup now says deposits and trading in banking should again be separate. We do, too.


              recent NY Times op-ed adds this historical note:

              "While we are on this subject, add The New York Times editorial page to the list of the converted. We forcefully advocated the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act. “Few economic historians now find the logic behind Glass-Steagall persuasive,” one editorial said in 1988. Another, in 1990, said that the notion that “banks and stocks were a dangerous mixture” “makes little sense now.”

              That year, we also said that the Glass-Steagall Act was one of two laws that “stifle commercial banks.” The other was the McFadden-Douglas Act, which prevented banks from opening branches across the nation.

              Having seen the results of this sweeping deregulation, we now think we were wrong to have supported it."
              finished 10th in this 37th yr in 11-team-only NL 5x5
              own picks 1, 2, 5, 6, 9 in April 2022 1st-rd farmhand draft
              won in 2017 15 07 05 04 02 93 90 84

              SP SGray 16, TWalker 10, AWood 10, Price 3, KH Kim 2, Corbin 10
              RP Bednar 10, Bender 10, Graterol 2
              C Stallings 2, Casali 1
              1B Votto 10, 3B ERios 2, 1B Zimmerman 2, 2S Chisholm 5, 2B Hoerner 5, 2B Solano 2, 2B LGarcia 10, SS Gregorius 17
              OF Cain 14, Bader 1, Daza 1

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              • Jenna Loves Mitt:

                "Porn legend Jenna Jameson may have just made the unlikeliest - and least helpful - endorsement of the 2012 campaign season.

                The adult-entertainment pioneer exposed her political preference for Mitt Romney Thursday night while sipping champagne in the VIP room of a San Francisco gentlemen's club.

                "I'm very looking forward to a Republican being back in office," Jameson told a KCBS-TV reporter, champagne in hand. "When you're rich, you want a Republican in office."

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                • color the entire pen shocked that the Romney tax plan may not work as advertised:

                  "Tax experts - including one who supports Romney's plan - say the Republican presidential candidate's promise to cut individual income tax rates without either favoring the wealthy or losing revenue isn't mathematically possible.

                  That's the conclusion of the Tax Policy Center in a report the Romney campaign attacked as "biased" (although the campaign previously praised the TPC as "objective," when it issued a report critical of a rival's tax plan).

                  And it's also the conclusion of an expert from the pro-business Tax Foundation, who states that the Tax Policy Center analysis "correctly identified the Romney plan as a tax cut, at least in static terms, that accrues mainly to high-income earners." "

                  Tax experts -- including one who supports Romney's plan -- say the Republican presidential candidate's promise to cut individual income tax rates without either favoring the wealthy or losing revenue isn't mathematically possible. That's the conclusion of the Tax Policy Center in a report the Romney campaign attacked ...
                  finished 10th in this 37th yr in 11-team-only NL 5x5
                  own picks 1, 2, 5, 6, 9 in April 2022 1st-rd farmhand draft
                  won in 2017 15 07 05 04 02 93 90 84

                  SP SGray 16, TWalker 10, AWood 10, Price 3, KH Kim 2, Corbin 10
                  RP Bednar 10, Bender 10, Graterol 2
                  C Stallings 2, Casali 1
                  1B Votto 10, 3B ERios 2, 1B Zimmerman 2, 2S Chisholm 5, 2B Hoerner 5, 2B Solano 2, 2B LGarcia 10, SS Gregorius 17
                  OF Cain 14, Bader 1, Daza 1

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                  • The point is validly made that all the gaff, finger pointing, ads and so on have managed to do almost nothing. In April Obama was 2and a fraction percent ahead. Today its two and a slightly different fraction. Source RCP polling average. The conventions are coming. we will see who gets the bigger bump.

                    J
                    Ad Astra per Aspera

                    Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

                    GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

                    Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

                    I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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                    • Originally posted by onejayhawk View Post
                      The point is validly made that all the gaff, finger pointing, ads and so on have managed to do almost nothing. In April Obama was 2and a fraction percent ahead. Today its two and a slightly different fraction. Source RCP polling average. The conventions are coming. we will see who gets the bigger bump.



                      J
                      If you really believe what you're saying, you need to get on a plane over to England and lay a massive bet down on Romney. Because every Brit oddsmaker has Barack Obama as an overwhelming favorite to win in November...and I generally trust bookies to know a thing or tow about odds.
                      "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
                      - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

                      "Your shitty future continues to offend me."
                      -Warren Ellis

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                      • Originally posted by Hornsby View Post
                        If you really believe what you're saying, you need to get on a plane over to England and lay a massive bet down on Romney. Because every Brit oddsmaker has Barack Obama as an overwhelming favorite to win in November...and I generally trust bookies to know a thing or tow about odds.
                        Damn we have to go overseas to make a bet cuz JC and his minions wont let us wager here.

                        I called this race months ago.

                        And if Chance honors his statements and bails for a while-- I'll get banned cuz I made him do it.

                        Bunch of pussies here.
                        If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                        Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                        Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                        • Originally posted by onejayhawk View Post
                          The point is validly made that all the gaff, finger pointing, ads and so on have managed to do almost nothing. In April Obama was 2and a fraction percent ahead. Today its two and a slightly different fraction. Source RCP polling average. The conventions are coming. we will see who gets the bigger bump.

                          J
                          I think RCP generally leans right. I wouldn't put that much stock in them. Nate Silver continues to be the leader in election analytics and predictions. Until his methodology has serious flaws, I'd bet the bank on him.

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                          • Originally posted by JudeBaldo View Post
                            I think RCP generally leans right. I wouldn't put that much stock in them. Nate Silver continues to be the leader in election analytics and predictions. Until his methodology has serious flaws, I'd bet the bank on him.
                            That is the first time I have ever seen RCP accused of being anything but across the board. This is, after all, a collection of polls averaged together.

                            J
                            Ad Astra per Aspera

                            Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

                            GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

                            Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

                            I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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                            • Originally posted by onejayhawk View Post
                              That is the first time I have ever seen RCP accused of being anything but across the board. This is, after all, a collection of polls averaged together.

                              J
                              The national averages are important because you certainly don't want things to start tipping away, but the electoral college still decides the election and if you take the RCP lean states and give Obama Ohio where he has had a 6 and 8 point lead in the last 2 polls and Nevada where he has regularly been up 5 points that is 271. With PA already leaning for Obama for Romeney to win he needs Ohio and Florida or the math becomes really difficult.

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                              • Originally posted by frae View Post
                                The national averages are important because you certainly don't want things to start tipping away, but the electoral college still decides the election and if you take the RCP lean states and give Obama Ohio where he has had a 6 and 8 point lead in the last 2 polls and Nevada where he has regularly been up 5 points that is 271. With PA already leaning for Obama for Romeney to win he needs Ohio and Florida or the math becomes really difficult.
                                We are not talking about lean states. We are talking about the poll averages.

                                Romney cannot win the election without Florida, but that looks like a real possibility. If that is the case then things could get interesting. That being said, Romney is closer than Reagan was in 1980.

                                J
                                Ad Astra per Aspera

                                Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

                                GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

                                Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

                                I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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