Obama reelection 2012

[senorsheep]

I think what's missing here is the differentiation of context and intent.

Obama gave all the context need to explain his intent, so his words were indeed taken out of context.

Romney did not provide complete context, though it was most likely his intent that he meant the Mediterranean Sea, he did not say so. So there's really no "context" to draw from unless you're willing to fill in the blanks he left, which someone like me, can do, chooses to do as to get the "intent" of his words.

I'm surprised you let him off the hook so easily as you, Sheep, are the most literal poster here.

FWIW, Lewis Black hit on it the other night when he blasted both side for their BS, out of context, flat out Lies they've been using in their election ads.

I assume Romney said this line as part of a larger speech, or perhaps a debate response. That would be the complete context. It isn't Romney who failed to provide the complete context - it's the people posting that one line with cutesy graphics who are not providing the complete context.

It's obvious partisan bullsh!t on par with Rush Limbaugh pretending Obama said businessmen didn't build their own businesses. If you can't see that... I've got nothing else for you.

[GwynnInTheHall]

I assume Romney said this line as part of a larger speech, or perhaps a debate response. That would be the complete context. It isn't Romney who failed to provide the complete context - it's the people posting that one line with cutesy graphics who are not providing the complete context.

It's obvious partisan bullsh!t on par with Rush Limbaugh pretending Obama said businessmen didn't build their own businesses. If you can't see that... I've got nothing else for you.

I haven't seen or read Romneys speech--so I don't know that the context was there only what you posted--and Dude--I'm agreeing with you. I was arguing semantics.

[onejayhawk]

The Caspian Sea isn't really a sea. Just a lake. Idiot.

:myturn:

Its not a Great Lake, just very good.

These jokes are worth more than the fuss.

J

[OaklandA's]

Even if that is what he meant, is a geographical misstatement more relevant to the election than his policy ideas on The Middle East? I know you're a believer in skipping the partisan pea-shooting and getting to the meat of things, so I assume you agree with me that posting trivial "Gotcha!" nonsense from blogs in order to tweak a candidate isn't particularly worthwhile, yes?

Yes, I agree it isn't a big deal. I said in the beginning that I thought it was a simple mistake. I was just confused because you seemed to be saying it wasn't a mistake, but something taken out of context.

[Moonlight J]

Mitt is getting absolutely crucified by the English press over his ill-advised criticisms of the London Olympic games. I guess it's a schadenfreude thing but I'm finding it endlessly hilarious. Mitt is such a raging shmuck.

"Americans really don't care what the foreign press thinks"

Really, Mittens? Then why are you over there on this trip?

[cardboardbox]

No one is dumb enough to think anything other than Mediterranean when hearing/reading that quote.

[GwynnInTheHall]

No one is dumb enough to think anything other than Mediterranean when hearing/reading that quote.

yet some are dumb enough to still think Obama's a Muslim.

Idiocracy--It's real.

[onejayhawk]

Idiocracy--It's real.

Sig material.

J

[cardboardbox]

Is Obama channeling Biden?

[B-Fly]

Is Obama channeling Biden?

Channeling Biden how? You may disagree about the impact of the Recovery Act, but the President's statement is certainly not a gaffe.

[chancellor]

Channeling Biden how? You may disagree about the impact of the Recovery Act, but the President's statement is certainly not a gaffe.

By their own metrics, the Recovery Act was an unqualified failure. Not by some Cato Institute measurement, or a GOP slant, or a Heritage paper - their own measurement has been used to measure success. And they failed. He can claim success by some hindsight driven metric (oh, we missed our unemployment goal by almost 2%, but hey, we saved the economy! And any problems are Bush's fault! Yeah, that's the ticket!).

[OaklandA's]

By their own metrics, the Recovery Act was an unqualified failure.

Disagree. The goals of the stimulus were to prevent the economy from going into a recession (it didn't), and to save and create jobs (it created over 3 million). That is not an "unqualified failure".

[onejayhawk]

Disagree. The goals of the stimulus were to prevent the economy from going into a recession (it didn't), and to save and create jobs (it created over 3 million). That is not an "unqualified failure".

You have to do some real gymnastics to come up with 3,000,000 jobs.

J

[OaklandA's]

You have to do some real gymnastics to come up with 3,000,000 jobs.

J

Here is the link to the CBO estimate of 3.3 Million jobs:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-25/obama-s-economic-stimulus-program-created-up-to-3-3-million-jobs-cbo-says.html

[Moonlight J]

You have to do some real gymnastics to come up with 3,000,000 jobs.

J

You have to do some real gymnastics to deny 3,000,000 jobs