WRGPT 2011 (massive email poker thing)

[heyelander]

Flop was Ac 8h Ah
He pushed, I folded.

[heyelander]

So I see this from time to time and don't know what I should think of it.

1 Min Raise, 1 Call, I'm the BB and I have 77 and I call with the thought that if I hit a 7 great, if I don't, I check and fold to a bet.

Flop comes QQ9 (two diamonds here)

I usually think I like that. With two Qs there, its less likely someone is playing a Q, the 9 is negligible I guess. What should I do here? (I already threw in 50% of the pot)

edit to add: I guess that worked, both folded to my bet, but how should that be played?

[johnnya24]

Heads up you can feel safe about taking a shot ... against two opponents it is more risky. It's still profitable to bet out I think ... depends a lot on the quality of your opponents. A Q is not likely to bet out here (although it should) in a game like this ... so you are setting yourself up to get out played if you are up against good players. Maybe someone floats a call with a small pair or something ... it won't be pleasant on the turn if you get called ... because they would just flat call a Q or a 9 if they have one ... and what do you do when you get called and face a bet on a later street?

Position, position, position .......

Better to raise the 77 preflop of course when you are in the blinds ... would be a nice flop to back up a PF raise against 1 opponent.

[johnnya24]

edit to add: I guess that worked, both folded to my bet, but how should that be played?

Raise preflop ... what are you hoping to hit on the flop that can help you? Overcards are all scary with 2 opponents and bad position ... and you are only going to hit a set 12% of the time.

There is an excuse to set hunt and dump if you are up against another big stack ... or if you are feeling a bit timid, or if your table image is really bad and you won't force a fold. But in general you don't wanna be playing small medium pairs out of position without the lead in the pot ... it leads to horrible emasculating hero-call situations.

[heyelander]

I guess this is a situation where I play way too much free poker. I play in this bar league once a week and while the people are decent players and take it all pretty seriously there is still some level of "fvck it, it's free poker" involved. If someone is willing to raise, they are not very likely to fold to a reraise. If I reraise with my 77, all I'm doing there is jacking up the pot and ending up with two callers still. How much would you raise in a real game to dissuade people from hanging around?

[GwynnInTheHall]

Flop was Ac 8h Ah
He pushed, I folded.

What did you end up doing pre flop? I get the feeling you just called.

[heyelander]

What did you end up doing pre flop? I get the feeling you just called.

I had doubled the bet before I asked the question, so it was 2000/4000 blinds, raise to 12000, I re-raise to 24000, folds all around, flop, all-in, I fold.

[GwynnInTheHall]

I had doubled the bet before I asked the question, so it was 2000/4000 blinds, raise to 12000, I re-raise to 24000, folds all around, flop, all-in, I fold.

Gotcha.

[baldgriff]

Im card dead now! Have 146K and the blinds 3k/6k ante 1k is starting to eat up the stack. Trying to be patient here to find a good hand with some position to make some hay.

[heyelander]

Im card dead now! Have 146K and the blinds 3k/6k ante 1k is starting to eat up the stack. Trying to be patient here to find a good hand with some position to make some hay.

same here.

[heyelander]

pocket 9s
raised 3x the blind out of third position
got 4 callers (!)
Pot size: $108000
flop 7s 4d 3h
SB Checks
BB Checks
Heyelander bets $60000
Folds all around

! Hand over, no showdown
! Current board is: 7s 4d 3h ? ?
! Heyelander wins $168000 (net $87000)

Table Talk:
% Buying that Pot?
! -- Ian D. Myers --

start of next hand:

+-+----------------------------+--------+--------+------+----+--------+
|#|   Name                     |Bankroll| Action |Status|Pot#|Pot Size|
+-+----------------------------+--------+--------+------+----+--------+
 1|   Ian D. Myers             | 130900 |   4000 |      |    |        |
 2|   Bart Gerardi             | 174725 |   7000 |      |    |        |
 3|>  Quick                    | 201600 |   1000 |      |    |        |
 4|   Heyelander               | 539775 |   1000 |      |    |        |
 5|   SmBoatDrinks             | 231200 |   1000 |      |    |        |
 6|   Yellow Ledbetter         | 299900 |   1000 |      |    |        |
 7|   Neil Boyce               | 158800 |   1000 |      |    |        |
 8|D  Derek Riehl              | 217150 |   1000 |      |    |        |
+-+----------------------------+--------+--------+------+----+--------+

[heyelander]

And baldgriff out lasts me as my pocket QQ run up against the AA of the only guy at the table to have me covered.

[johnnya24]

I suppose that will give you more time to make your picks

[baldgriff]

Sheesh - I am so card dead. At 120K now and need a hand to push with as the blinds are killing me.

[heyelander]

I had a good feeling of what was going on too... got my QQ in first position, raised 3x the BB, got reraised, everyone else folded and I called. Flop came J x x rainbow. I bet a little over half the pot and got reraised again. At that point I was trying to think of what made sense... seemed only AA or KK or maybe JJ but even if it was JJ I was in trouble. Still I made the call. another blank came on the turn and I thought... I'm bored of this. Any bet I could make then would have made me pot committed so betting wouldn't help. Checking and folding was the right call I guess after already making the wrong call to call on the flop. Still, I was bored and couldn't get away from my hand so I pushed. He called and that was that.