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I'm OUT!
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The button had about 20K more than I did. Blind was 1600, 3200 (400 ante).It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
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My thoughts here. First, if you don't want to be run over and wish to make a statement, then 3 bet your hand. Just calling out of position with a weak hand is the fastest way to the rail. Don't get stubborn, be smart. Aggression is good, but you played this passively and are now in a position where you have to play after flopping the open-ender. If you push, you risk him having an ace and calling in which case you need to make the straight or runner runner 2 pair/trips to win (assuming he didn;t raise with A3 or A4, which is a play you make on the button or hijack). If you check call, you're gonna bleed chips and possible face him going all in and making to call with the draw. The only smart play i see here is to check and if he makes a bet which doesn't commit him to the pot, check raise big.. If he's got a pocket pair, non set. he'll muck. If he has top pair, 2 pair or a set, you're no worse off than you began the flop in--open ended straight draw. Checking is the play right now.Originally posted by baldgriff View PostIf I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
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Interesting, he called my initial post flop bet. A 4 hit the turn and I bet out at 1/4 the pot. He folded.
I can see why you would say to 3 bet pre-flop and it makes sense.It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantraComment
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glad it worked out for you.Originally posted by baldgriff View Post
If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King, Jr.Comment
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Now I am one behind the dealer stack is 119k. The guy infront of me makes it 10K to go (his stack is same size). I have 10 10, I have decided to reraise and make it 20K. Not sure I should have done it, but I didnt want either blind feeling like they should make a loose call. I would rather be heads up with this hand.
Oh just noticed the BB has a stack of 44k. So if he pushes, I am going to have to call.
Thoughts.Last edited by baldgriff; 03-12-2012, 04:40 PM.It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantraComment
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I would raise more than 2X ... you want to try and pick up the pot up here, you don't want to give the OR good odds to call with hands like QJ ... and like you say, you don't want the blinds smelling a value call with a goofy hand.
I wouldn't worry about the BB that much ... I doubt he'll shove with a raise and a re-raise in front ... and you have a good hand to go to war with.Comment
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Original raiser just re-raised for everything. I ended up folding. So I still have 96k and will find a better spot to put it all-in......
Im guessing JJ or AK suited. So I reraised to make him decide and he told me what I needed to know. Dont like losing a hand, but I think it was a solid fold at this point.It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantraComment
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Yeah ... that would have been a poor spot to get it in.
What is your strategy from here? Hang in and wait it out, or look for spots to get a big stack?Comment
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You made the right laydown here. My question to you is: Why are you playing so scared? Too timid in my estimate. Your raise wasn't enough to get any info so why not just call? If you're going to raise with that hand at this point , you need to commit your chips so the guy can't blow you off the hand by going all in. I'm assuming he had a weak ace ( A-J, A-10) or a smaller pair. No reason to blow a guy off the hand if you think you have him dominated. You're in a situation now where you need to only play hands you'd go all in with until you can build your stack up and play some poker.Originally posted by baldgriff View Post
Aggression wins these things, it may not be your way, but you've seen how it works recently--once when you were and once when your opponent was.If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King, Jr.Comment
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I though my raise was enough to find out where he was at without over committing. I could be wrong.It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantraComment
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If he calls, what do you learn? It would seem to most experienced players that you were just testing him with maybe a KQ suited or small (3s-7s) pair so pushing is his move-- the 3 bet has become the most powerful move in poker--but it has to be strong. Only doubling the initial raise shows weakness which is what you want to show if you have AA or KK so he'll re-raise you but not with a hand like 10 10 which is vulnerable to the overs J, Q, K and Ace.. You can't be afraid to commit, you're going to have to sooner or later.Originally posted by baldgriff View PostIf I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King, Jr.Comment
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If you're really afraid you're behind then fold. Otherwise play it like it's the best hand. Calling is an option and may have been the way to go, though that allows the button and blinds (one of whom was short stacked) to get the odds needed to call weakening your Tens even more. So if it were me, I'd either fold (depending on the initial raisers previous play) or raise big, possibly half your stack so the guy knows you're calling if he shoves and he can't push you off the pot.If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King, Jr.Comment
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I understand what you are saying, I guess my thought was raise enough to make sure that the only way the BB plays is if he has a hand. I didnt expect a reraise from the original bettor, so in retrospect I didnt think far enough ahead as I only assumed a call rather than a reraise. The reraise told me he was willing to put his stack in - at which point I wasnt.
So I should have raised enough to put the BB in and force the decision of the original raiser. Just fell short in my thinking the action after my raise and that is what beat me.It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantraComment
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