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  • So I've been given the shaft in work...

    No, not fired; that I could deal with. Not redundancy either; that I could also deal with also.

    Brought in today by my boss to say that three of us who work for him are now moving to other parts of the organisation as part of a restructuring of our department.

    Nine months ago I moved to this department. I handed over my old role to a guy about five levels above me who was coming back from a career break. He's got a reputation of being extremely difficult and so it proved - the handover became one of the most difficult things I've had to do in my career, not because of any personal attachment to the role but simply because of the utterly strange dynamic this guy brings to anything.

    My boss at the time asked me how I felt that the job that I was doing would now be done by a guy many levels above me in seniority. I said that it was hugely annoying because even if I'd stayed in the role I wouldn't have been able to get even a single level's promotion because of the promotion ban in place here, but it was what it was.

    This morning I was told by my boss, that same boss, that I'd be moving to work for that guy. To be clear, to be an assistant to the role I used to do before moving departments.

    The announcement will be made tomorrow morning at 11am.

    I was originally stunned. Calmly explained the situation involving moving to work for somebody to whom i'd handed over my role (something which my boss should have known). Also explained the extreme difficulty involved in working with this guy, never mind for this guy (something my boss would not necessarily have known).

    Both of the other guys who I worked with have been taken care of in one way, shape or form. I've gone from a guy who was doing a job to a to that guy's f**king assistant.

    As the day went on, stunned moved to frustration which moved to intense, primal anger. So I left at about 4:45 before something bad happened.

    Have requested a meeting with my boss and my soon to be boss's executive. Had requested that it be as early as possible tomorrow morning. Unfortunately it looks like it can't happen until after the official announcement is made. So, I requested that at the very least the language used in that announcement could be made ambiguous; i.e. that it would not explicitly state that I was moving to work for that guy and I could at least fight my corner. Can't see it being accepted but it was worth a shot.

    Honestly contemplated resigning today. In this country where jobs are being lost every day, that's a notable statement. But even if "having a job" is seen as valuable, being taken for a complete sucker is worth something in the other direction.

    You know what the best part is? I was the only person in our entire department who volunteered for a working group to examine our company's growth, development and recognition strategy for the staff. It took two months for the group to get going. The 2nd meeting is tomorrow morning from 10 to 11 when I'll have to play dumb (because the announcement won't happen until 11) and offer my ideas on what they SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT DO IN ORDER TO PROVIDE SOME MOTIVATION FOR THEIR STAFF.

    Don't even know what I'm doing posting this here but i'm ready to explode. Tomorrow will be a huge day for me in terms of my ability to keep a calm head while underneath I'll be ready to kill.

    Good Christ.

    F**k them all.

  • #2
    My sympathies. That sucks.

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    • #3
      dude, you are going to end up doing your exact job that you did before, your title will be assistant, but you'll end up doing all the work
      "You know what's wrong with America? If I lovingly tongue a woman's nipple in a movie, it gets an "NC-17" rating, if I chop it off with a machete, it's an "R". That's what's wrong with America, man...."--Dennis Hopper

      "One should judge a man mainly from his depravities. Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real." -- Klaus Kinski

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Fresno Bob View Post
        dude, you are going to end up doing your exact job that you did before, your title will be assistant, but you'll end up doing all the work
        Yep.

        When I handed the thing over, colleagues who'd worked closely with this guy before had warned me that a) he'd immediately be looking for a "team" and b) I would be in big crosshairs as somebody who he'd see as being part of that "team". I dodged everything at the time, including saying that it just wasn't the right move for me.

        I'll be walking in there on Monday week knowing that.

        It actually makes me physically queasy. No exaggeration.

        Currently preparing for tomorrow's meeting - going through my approach with a fine toothed comb. Must conceal every piece of utter contempt in order to gain something out of this.

        Only good thing is that this guy's direct boss is a fan of mine; he's asked me a number of times if I'd consider moving to him. I'll at least get an excellent reference. Working two levels below him was not, however, part of any plan that either of us would have considered.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by amcg View Post
          Yep.

          When I handed the thing over, colleagues who'd worked closely with this guy before had warned me that a) he'd immediately be looking for a "team" and b) I would be in big crosshairs as somebody who he'd see as being part of that "team". I dodged everything at the time, including saying that it just wasn't the right move for me.

          I'll be walking in there on Monday week knowing that.

          It actually makes me physically queasy. No exaggeration.

          Currently preparing for tomorrow's meeting - going through my approach with a fine toothed comb. Must conceal every piece of utter contempt in order to gain something out of this.

          Only good thing is that this guy's direct boss is a fan of mine; he's asked me a number of times if I'd consider moving to him. I'll at least get an excellent reference. Working two levels below him was not, however, part of any plan that either of us would have considered.
          make them explain how this is good for you....that should be at least fun. The nice way to ask is "I'm a bit confused how our strategy has changed since I transitioned out of this role, can you explain it to me?" The other thing that you have going for you is that you actually understand the job, make sure that your new boss is responsible for every clusterf@ck element...then sit back and enjoy. I'm doing this to my current boss to keep myself amused.....
          "You know what's wrong with America? If I lovingly tongue a woman's nipple in a movie, it gets an "NC-17" rating, if I chop it off with a machete, it's an "R". That's what's wrong with America, man...."--Dennis Hopper

          "One should judge a man mainly from his depravities. Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real." -- Klaus Kinski

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          • #6
            You might try patience, at least for a while. That guy could blow up at some point and you'll get moved into the top spot in part for being a team player.
            “Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.”
            -Ralph Waldo Emerson

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            • #7
              Also, it's easier to knife a guy if you're standing behind him...
              “Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.”
              -Ralph Waldo Emerson

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              • #8
                Burn the place to the ****ing ground
                I'm sorry, man, but I've got magic. I've got poetry in my fingertips. Most of the time--and this includes naps --I'm an F-18, bro. And I will destroy you in the air. I will deploy my ordinance to the ground.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Fresno Bob View Post
                  make them explain how this is good for you....that should be at least fun. The nice way to ask is "I'm a bit confused how our strategy has changed since I transitioned out of this role, can you explain it to me?"
                  This forms a key part of tomorrow's plan... typing it up now.

                  Am being hugely positive about their collective genius and vision in putting us together (Devil's Advocate would state that our skills would prove very effective together. This assumes two things; a) that I don't kill him and b) I don't get shafted at the very outset).

                  I will be hugely positive about my work in that role previously, how I enjoyed working with (name list of people all technically more senior than me who I managed).

                  Then i will ask them to help me view this move in terms of my career.

                  And then I will be very silent (inviting silent, not threatening silent)...

                  Right, back to typing this up...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by billbuckner View Post
                    Burn the place to the ****ing ground
                    We'll call this plan B.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Wonderboy View Post
                      You might try patience, at least for a while. That guy could blow up at some point and you'll get moved into the top spot in part for being a team player.
                      It would take the guy pulling a shotgun out in the staff restaurant in order for him to actually get fired. In fact they probably wouldn't fire him, just send him on sick leave. That's what a dysfunctional organisation would do.

                      Well, it's accelerating my job search anyway

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                      • #12
                        I certainly don't recommend finding yourself on the dole on this island any time soon! There's educated, experienced people out there working for buttons dude ... and some of them are the lucky ones.

                        I was at a VC conference in Dublin last month ... it was the VC's begging for money.

                        You didn't say you were taking a pay cut ... if not .... fu*k it, swallow your pride, suck it up for a little bit, and when things pick up, you'll get yours. Remember that what you do now, and how you act might pay dividends down the line ... and it can work the other way.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by johnnya24 View Post
                          fu*k it, swallow your pride, suck it up for a little bit, and when things pick up, you'll get yours. Remember that what you do now, and how you act might pay dividends down the line ... and it can work the other way.
                          Yeah, I have to agree. No amount of logic is going to make them change their mind by 11 AM tomorrow. It's a done deal. Either you can fake being a good soldier or you can publicly sulk and burn your bridges. To me, the smart play is to keep it close to your vest and play along while you either find another job or the situation changes.

                          Now really isn't the time to be rocking the boat.
                          “Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.”
                          -Ralph Waldo Emerson

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by amcg View Post
                            We'll call this plan B.
                            I simply can't wait to see plan C.

                            Seriously, Wonderboy is correct here. On both posts.
                            I'm just here for the baseball.

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                            • #15
                              Wow, that sucks.

                              Nothing to add to the advice that's been given.
                              "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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