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    Are you more afraid of getting shot or getting hit by a drunk driver?

    Now, you may not be particularly afraid of either one, but if you were to choose which one would it be?

  • #2
    Can I be afraid of a drunk gunman?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by johnnya24 View Post
      Can I be afraid of a drunk gunman?
      You look pretty drunk in your picture. Plus you have that pointed at me, so I think you can be afraid of whoever you want.

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      • #4
        Probably getting shot

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        • #5
          Originally posted by eldiablo505
          Folks are fine with shredding the 4th Amendment in an effort to curb the epidemic of drunk driving
          I'm not.
          "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by eldiablo505
            Three times as many people are killed by guns each year than are killed by drunk drivers. Folks are fine with shredding the 4th Amendment in an effort to curb the epidemic of drunk driving but apparently unwilling to do anything about gun violence outside of issuing platitudes and meaningless prayers.
            I have seen one report that shows 3 times as many on the drunk driver side, another report that shows them about even. One was 2015 and one was 2104. I did not check the sources for bias.

            I am not sure what you mean by shredding the 4th amendment to curb the epidemic of drunk driving.

            Is there not room in your heart to eliminate drunk driving and guns?

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            • #7
              Drunk driving is something that many people can envision as happening to them wherever they are. Gun deaths tend to be concentrated in certain places that are possible for most (non-poor, non-minority) people to avoid. Although the rate of gun deaths is higher than the rate of drunk driving deaths, I suspect that the number of people who are more at risk from drunk driving than guns is a majority of the population.
              In the best of times, our days are numbered, anyway. And it would be a crime against Nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were presumably designed in the first place, and which the gravest statesmen and the hoarsest politicians hope to make available to all men in the end: I mean the opportunity to do good work, to fall in love, to enjoy friends, to sit under trees, to read, to hit a ball and bounce the baby.

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              • #8
                Pretty sure there are more people killed by drunk drivers in white, middle class, suburban neighborhoods. So I'll go with that one.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by eldiablo505
                  Yes, if you are around guns or you own a gun you are much more likely to be hurt or killed by a gun than someone who doesn't own a gun or doesn't have guns in the house. Similarly, if you drive a lot you are at a far higher risk of being hurt or killed on the road. Still, I'd be interested in reading some support for your assertion if there is any. I don't know that I'm willing to make that jump without evidence.
                  Crap! I own 7 guns (haven's shot one in 35 years) and drive about 35K miles per year!

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                  • #10
                    make sure you clean those guns before shooting them.
                    It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
                    Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address


                    "When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Gregg View Post
                      Crap! I own 7 guns (haven's shot one in 35 years) and drive about 35K miles per year!
                      So, why do you own 7 guns? Especially if you don't use them.

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                      • #12
                        I think it's a difficult question to answer because as ElD alluded to, there's not enough evidence regarding gun fatalities, the mitigating circumstance and really, just the raw data to be able to speak to gun violence accurately. There is an abundance of data for drunk driving, it's causes and effects on society (maybe that's a hint right there--start allowing the study of gun violence and then we can have an intelligent conversation) so again, it's just opinion to date.

                        I'm not afraid of either, life happens and we either do what we can to keep ourselves safe or we don't. I can't spend my drive time thinking everyone drunk, but I am an active driver, I stay aware of everything as often as I can. Similarly, I stay aware of my surroundings should I find myself in a place that warrants extra attention.

                        And strange as it sounds, I really dont scare easy at all, not sure why'but even when I was living in Mexico, driving through places like Tijuana, etc. Walking through the same places alone and obviously Gringo, never worried about it. I also never had an issue, I never was accosted, yelled at, threatened, nothing.'

                        So I'm not really afraid of either, but if I had to choose which one I thought was more likely to happen to me I'd have to say, pretty much even the way things are right now, if they start to regulate guns the way they do drunk drivers, then I'd say Drunk Driving would be more likely.
                        If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                        Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                        Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                        • #13
                          I knew three people that are dead from drunk drivers. No gunshot murder victims. This is a no brainer.

                          My wife is a suicide survivor, she would go the other way.

                          Originally posted by joncarlos View Post
                          Pretty sure there are more people killed by drunk drivers in white, middle class, suburban neighborhoods. So I'll go with that one.
                          I do not live in a white middle class neighborhood. It's racially mixed and "recovering".

                          J
                          Ad Astra per Aspera

                          Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

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                          • #14
                            I'm more afraid of being killed by a drunk driver than being shot, but that's just because while I think the odds of either are very low, I think there is a higher chance for the former rather than the latter...
                            "You know what's wrong with America? If I lovingly tongue a woman's nipple in a movie, it gets an "NC-17" rating, if I chop it off with a machete, it's an "R". That's what's wrong with America, man...."--Dennis Hopper

                            "One should judge a man mainly from his depravities. Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real." -- Klaus Kinski

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                            • #15
                              I think there is a higher propensity for people to drive drunk thus making it more possible for me to be hit by a drunk driver - than it is for me to get shot.
                              It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
                              Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address


                              "When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra

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