Corona Virus

[nullnor]

The article claims “GMO Golden Rice Offers No Nutritional Benefits Says FDA.” While that may be true based on the amount of rice Americans consume, it is not accurate for developing nations where rice is a staple food. The FDA responded to this misleading claim when Marriana Naum wrote the following statement: “It is unfortunate that the statement you reference in our letter responding to BNF 158 has been misconstrued to suggest that there would be no value of the pro-vitamin A in golden rice for its use in the countries where it is intended for distribution.”

i'd be more worried about arsenic in rice.

[nullnor]

speculation, it's a question of Time, Present, Past, if you could put all the academic papers related to this one incident in chronological order you'd find enough evidence. I don't think there is anyone in the world that could do it. but the materials are there.

[Gregg]

opening up the economy will actually work now because the people 50 and under have low mortality rates. the world has established that 50 and older are the people that need to be careful. in Massachusetts 50 have 3.6 mortality rate and probably lower to do testing challenges. 60+ you start getting in 10% plus SARS mortality rate territory. but that's still pretty high for 50 and over. and we have healthcare. although i personally don't.

it'll be like Sweden sort of before they realized they had to do more for older citizens. ..i'll make a prediction, the virus isn't really going to go away until a vaccine, and the battlegrounds will be nursing homes and care facilities.

i'll give you a word of caution, George Floyd had been previously diagnosed with C-19 and after recovering still had it in his system 18 days when he died. they say it's just viral fragments still clearing your system, but there is a very small chance it stays at low levels and since it's new we can't be sure how long, even if it is asymptomatic. even if it does clear it can have long lasting health effects, especially for people needing to be hospitalized. loss of kidney function, lung capacity, cardiovascular disease. etc..

this is the future we are embarking on. we still need to social distance and be careful around people over 60.

the people in their 50's will just have to hope 3.6 mortality isn't themselves. because we're fucked. heh

If we are only concerned about 50 and under we would never had to have closed down in the first place.

Since I am in my 60's I would prefer that those 50 and under would not infect me. I do not think we are close to done with this. People seem to be very careless in this opening process. I am no more or less at risk with an open society than I was in March. I certainly am more nervous.

[revo]

What happens in Vegas definitely isn’t just staying in Vegas. This is borderline insane. Americans arw just too stupid to beat this virus.

[chancellor]

speculation, it's a question of Time, Present, Past, if you could put all the academic papers related to this one incident in chronological order you'd find enough evidence. I don't think there is anyone in the world that could do it. but the materials are there.

You can do it, nully!!

[GwynnInTheHall]

What happens in Vegas definitely isn’t just staying in Vegas. This is borderline insane. Americans arw just too stupid to beat this virus.

Yeah a friend of mine I spoke with told me he was in The Orleans--It was packed and even Poker, which is the most difficult to avoid cross contamination, was full with a 2 hour wait for a seat. the dealer wore masks, but not gloves and it was apparently optional for players to do so.

Next wave should be in August sometime.

But hey, gotta get their gamble on!

[swampdragon]

Yeah a friend of mine I spoke with told me he was in The Orleans--It was packed and even Poker, which is the most difficult to avoid cross contamination, was full with a 2 hour wait for a seat. the dealer wore masks, but not gloves and it was apparently optional for players to do so.

Next wave should be in August sometime.

But hey, gotta get their gamble on!

Do you agree - that gambling is a pretty powerful addiction for many people?

[GwynnInTheHall]

Do you agree - that gambling is a pretty powerful addiction for many people?

Absolutely, in everything I've studies and read Gambling is close to and is predicted to overtake substances ad the leading addiction.

It's easier to hide from friends and family so you can get in deep without raising early alarms like substances and it's easier to self justify as a win here or there can obscure the damage being done.

Gambling starts as a mental/phycological issue that can in some cases, bring about physical health issues--Substances affect both from beginning to end and so the destruction/outward issues are quick to manifest and allow those addicts to get help sooner--Gamblers usually wait much longer to seek/get help.

Now not every person who gambles is going to become an addict and there's different tiers of the addiction/problem so a mild addiction isn't going to be particularly destructive, kind of like occasional substance use--Thing is, Most Problem Gamblers/Addicts have a dual addiction, usually coupling with substance/alcohol which can really exacerbate both additions.

[swampdragon]

Absolutely, in everything I've studies and read Gambling is close to and is predicted to overtake substances ad the leading addiction.

It's easier to hide from friends and family so you can get in deep without raising early alarms like substances and it's easier to self justify as a win here or there can obscure the damage being done.

Gambling starts as a mental/phycological issue that can in some cases, bring about physical health issues--Substances affect both from beginning to end and so the destruction/outward issues are quick to manifest and allow those addicts to get help sooner--Gamblers usually wait much longer to seek/get help.

Now not every person who gambles is going to become an addict and there's different tiers of the addiction/problem so a mild addiction isn't going to be particularly destructive, kind of like occasional substance use--Thing is, Most Problem Gamblers/Addicts have a dual addiction, usually coupling with substance/alcohol which can really exacerbate both additions.

thanks for a knowledable answer - so the fact that Vegas casinos are open and crowded more of an entertainment thing or the addiction is way more powerful than the risks - I really don't know I am jus curious to hear thoughts from some who really understands it.

I am way too logical to gamble (and don't like to risk/lose) - my brother is a brilliant CTO/CFO type plays poker but he wins and has played in WSOP main event almost free through low buy ins - I think he started out with $100 buy in, won satellite tournaments, and they paid for his trip, spending, and some cash - so I am not sure to consider it gambling or a second job (he makes money at it) -he also was a national ranked chess and bridge player

I explain casinos to my middle schoolers as the claw machine - you can win, might have fun, but you really are likely going to lose and when you win is costs you more than you put in- they understand that

I am sure that you have long article, if not a book in you, explaining the culture/psyche of gambling

[The Feral Slasher]

What happens in Vegas definitely isn’t just staying in Vegas. This is borderline insane. Americans arw just too stupid to beat this virus.

Yeah, our approach is not going to beat corona. Apparently we will live and die with it until we get a vaccine. I dont understand the need to go to bars and restaurants, but apparently a lot of people think that is very important

[The Feral Slasher]

Washington state has the highest number of new daily cases since early April. I suspect that will be the trend nationwide if it isn't already.

[GwynnInTheHall]

thanks for a knowledable answer - so the fact that Vegas casinos are open and crowded more of an entertainment thing or the addiction is way more powerful than the risks - I really don't know I am jus curious to hear thoughts from some who really understands it.

I am way too logical to gamble (and don't like to risk/lose) - my brother is a brilliant CTO/CFO type plays poker but he wins and has played in WSOP main event almost free through low buy ins - I think he started out with $100 buy in, won satellite tournaments, and they paid for his trip, spending, and some cash - so I am not sure to consider it gambling or a second job (he makes money at it) -he also was a national ranked chess and bridge player

I explain casinos to my middle schoolers as the claw machine - you can win, might have fun, but you really are likely going to lose and when you win is costs you more than you put in- they understand that

I am sure that you have long article, if not a book in you, explaining the culture/psyche of gambling

I will comment on the impact of gambling on covid tomorrow, I am in the midst of a Harry Potter marathon lol and the addictive issue of gambling. Maybe we should start a different thread because as you infer, there's a whole lot of information about all that which would only clutter up the pandemic thread

[Mithrandir]

Yeah, our approach is not going to beat corona. Apparently we will live and die with it until we get a vaccine. I dont understand the need to go to bars and restaurants, but apparently a lot of people think that is very important

I think it is just as much the attitude of " government ain't telling me what to do!"

[swampdragon]

I think it is just as much the attitude of " government ain't telling me what to do!"

as they cash their "stimulus" check and use the government services - yes it is combination of both

[revo]

Some states have seen their cases surge dramatically.

Alabama: June 4th saw its highest cases ever recorded, 750
Arizona: averaged about 200-300 cases daily, just saw its two highest case loads with 1579 & 1119 cases each of the last two days
Arkansas: 2nd highest ever on June 4 with 450
Florida: June 4th saw its highest level ever with 1419
Mississippi: highest ever was June 3rd with 570
New Mexico: highest ever was June 5th with 319
North Carolina: the last three days were each of its highest ever -- 1189, 1289, 1370
North Dakota: June 6th was in its Top 5
South Carolina: the seven days with its most cases were ALL last week
Tennessee: had its 2nd highest case total on June 2nd with 821
Texas: had 3 of its highest case totals in the last week, with June 6th being its highest daily ever with 1920
Wisconsin: had its highest ever case total on May 29


It should be noted many states are seeing a massive decrease, and it's very easy to see why that is. "More testing" is becoming the latest GOP defense to minimize, and that certainly cannot explain why northern states have seen dramatic decreases. And we'll see in a week or so how these protests affected totals.