Corona Virus

[Sour Masher]

Yeah, it is weak sauce to be sure. I suspect many drug makers will push products that may have minimal benefits for this.

And it looks like remdesivir now has approval from the FDA for treatment, despite the weaknesses of the study: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/li...S85?li=BBnb7Kz

It doesn't seem to be a cure all, but maybe it will help.

"The F.D.A. plans to announce as early as Wednesday an emergency use authorization for remdesivir, an experimental antiviral drug that is being tested in treating patients with Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, according to a senior administration official.

Ahead of the announcement President Trump and Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the federal government’s leading infectious diseases scientist, on Wednesday hailed early trial results of the drug, holding out hope that it could help stem the rising death toll.

Dr. Fauci said the federal trial indicated that the drug remdesivir could shorten the time to recovery by about a third. “Although a 31 percent improvement doesn’t seem like a knockout 100 percent, it is a very important proof of concept because what it has proven is that a drug can block this virus,” Dr. Fauci said. “This is very optimistic.”

[cardboardbox]

This is coming from the drug maker, so take it with a grain of salt, but they are saying the drug is showing over 50% of patients improve after a 5 day trial on the antiviral remdesivir, but the trial looks pretty limited to me and they don't quantify the improvement: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/othe...al/ar-BB13mWnY

lets hope it really works. Strangely, investors weren't swayed by the news at all.

[Sour Masher]

lets hope it really works. Strangely, investors weren't swayed by the news at all.

I'd be very surprised if we don't see investor movement tomorrow now that the FDA has approved the drug.

[Sour Masher]

lets hope it really works. Strangely, investors weren't swayed by the news at all.

Jim Cramer says today's general stock uptick was all about remdesivir, so they at least see it as a positive sign. I too am beginning to see a road to controlling the extend of the inevitable second uptick in the Fall. Maybe we can avoid another lockdown if we can keep the death rates down. And the fact that Oxford seems to think they can get a vaccine out by September is very encouraging too. That would be the real game changer.

That's why the market roared higher today, and make no mistake, this move was all about remdesivir," Cramer said of Wednesday's rally. "I can say that with confidence because we're right in the middle of earnings season and Wall Street hasn't exactly been thrilled with many of these reports."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/tops...gN1?li=BBnbfcN

[nullnor]

i found this site and not sure what category to put it in https://www.thailandmedical.news/ it's not an official medical site it seems and seems a little conspiracy. but it really had a wealth of information all in one place depending how you look at it. some of the news i struggle to find recently had been there for months. like i learned it's not HIV genes but a furin enzyme that allows the virus to attack cells a different way, and ebola can do it too and a bird flu and a rat coronavirus can. so it can happen naturally. some of the articles are alarming if there's any truth to them. plus it's global information sort of. and they are kind of funny as they sort have this in your face slight style.

[nullnor]

not drunk today i am just going to post a few things. Divergence of nCoV-2019 to closest non-human relative http://virological.org/t/divergence-...n-relative/388

To date, the closest described relative to the nCoV-2019 novel coronavirus in a non-human host is a bat SARSr-CoV called RaTG13.. this analysis suggests the human nCoV-2019 and the bat SARSr-CoV last shared a common ancestor around the end of 1992 and likely before mid-1997 (the upper 95% credible interval). For the slower rate this estimate is proportionally older — likely before 1978... Recently it has been announced that a coronavirus recovered from a pangolin may have 99% identity to nCoV-2019 making this a far closer relative. Assuming the faster rate of evolution this would imply a most recent common ancestor approximately 6 years ago (2014).

Tackling Rumors of a Suspicious Origin of nCoV2019 http://virological.org/t/tackling-ru...f-ncov2019/384

I have been privately dealing with rumors and inquiries, focused on the RRAR potential furin cleavage site, that nCoV2019 may have a suspicious origin as an engineered, laboratory-generated virus either accidentally or deliberately released in the area of the Wuhan seafood and animal market. The publication of the highly similar RaTG13 sequence about a week ago has fueled this type of speculation. As I have told people privately, I see no evidence at all to support such a claim.



But that is at first glance. One has to consider that the PRRA is an unusual sequence to introduce to generate a furin site – others even among coronaviruses like MHV A59 are so much better. Also that the underlying code CCTCGGCGGGCA introduces an unnecessarily G and C rich region where none otherwise exists. Not likely scenarios for something a gene jockey would do.

i was hoping for something more than just saying an unnecessary G and C rich region.

[revo]

Despite the NBA saying players in reopened states can voluntarily practice, now many insiders (agents, executives, etc.) are calling for the NBA to cancel the remainder of its season.

[TranaGreg]

Despite the NBA saying players in reopened states can voluntarily practice, now many insiders (agents, executives, etc.) are calling for the NBA to cancel the remainder of its season.

... leaving the raptors as league champions for two straight years!!!

[Sour Masher]

Man, Elon Musk has really gone off the rails on the coronavirus thing from the beginning and he keeps making it worse. He is a true visionary who is making a major positive impact on the world, but between this callousness and lack of care for his workers and the public at large and him libeling a man he didn't know at all a pedophile, the dude is also a pretty vicious douche.

[Ken]

Man, Elon Musk has really gone off the rails on the coronavirus thing and he keeps making it worse.

It makes sense, he's not worried about a virus since life is just a simulation.

[Sour Masher]

It makes sense, he's not worried about a virus since life is just a simulation.

Or maybe just a simulation inside a simulation inside a simulation.

[nullnor]

Elon Musk is a douchebag. bad character but doesn't prevent him from doing his job. just say'n.. not that i want to go there but should we stop buying what he sells because he's an obvious unhinged idiot?

[Ken]

Elon Musk is a douchebag. bad character but doesn't prevent him from doing his job.

Correct, much like your Einstein analogy, trying to take political discussion outside of political offices doesn't make sense.

[nullnor]

this is the Utopian world you guys want. the ideal world, but it's a business. take for example airline industries. in real capitalism, we let them declare bankruptcy. creditors come in and scoop up their assets and start a new airline, and everyone is the same.

someone like Elon Musk, we let him fail. someone else comes in and starts making electric cars and rockets with foolish dreams of living on mars.

but governments don't really work that ways. people like Elon Musk is too important to fail. and his businesses get bailed out, like socialism, while people that work for him have to fend for themselves. while he gets covered and continually get's to spout off his mouth about his vision of society.

here's a tip, JFK was wrong, it's not a rising tide that lifts the boats, it's the boats that lift the tide. and your universe has been turned upside down.

[nullnor]

Correct, much like your Einstein analogy, trying to take political discussion outside of political offices doesn't make sense.

what you fail to realize is everyone is an expert at politics. it's like saying you are a computer expert in an age where everyone has a computer and uses one everyday. you might be better at programming, but you'll never convince people they aren't experts or have an opinion about something they use everyday.