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Originally posted by nots View PostForgot to mention.....your rationalization for the artist’s cartoon came two posts after BFly posted he was a finalist in the Holocaust cartoon contest.---------------------------------------------
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Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View PostI don't need to rationalize the cartoon. That was discussed and I don't recall anyone here calling it vile, hateful or anti-Semitic If you want to move the goal post yet one more time we could talk about the cartoonists body of work, which appears to be disturbing. I don't defend that. It is unacceptable. However, his other work is not what was discussed . So please point out where I am anti-Semitic or just admit you hate Ilhan Omar and will label anyone who doesn't also hater her as anti-Semitic.
*Bfly posts about the artist being a finalist in Iran’s ( no great friend to Israel) Holocaust cartoon contest.
*You post ‘I see nothing wrong with the cartoon’ and then go off on a tangent about Nadler. Somehow in your mind, Nadler is the bad guy and the cartoon (and it’s artist) are worthy of rationalization.
And for the record, I don’t hate Omar.....her story is literally incredible and perfectly encapsulates the American dream. Not a fan of her politics and her anti-Semitic trope (I’m sure you can rationalize that Benjamin’s quote) but I do not hate her at all.
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Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View PostIf you or JJ wanted to talk about whether the cartoonist was a shitbag why not just bring that up from the beginning instead of trying to pretend that anyone who retweeted one of his recent cartoons is responsible for his entire lifes work. What a bunch of fucking weasels you guys are.
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Originally posted by nots View PostSpeaking of weasels....if a guy enters a Holocaust or KKK or (insert hate group here) contest, yeah, it’s probably not a good idea to sign off on any of his work. But you do you.---------------------------------------------
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Apparently everyone needs to research the entire life of anyone they retweet. You've been warned---------------------------------------------
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View PostApparently everyone needs to research the entire life of anyone they retweet. You've been warned
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Originally posted by nots View PostBFly gave you a heads up about the guy and his back story 2 posts before you said you saw nothing wrong with his cartoon. So, not really his whole life needed to be researched. I wonder why you continue not to mention what BFly wrote. Hmmmmm......
Maybe read lost 151 or 155 a few more times until it sinks in---------------------------------------------
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View PostI have already explicitly said several times that his previous stuff is unacceptable. Only a complete troll like u would ignore it and try to make the conversation about that and not the tweet we were discussing. Do better
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Originally posted by nots View PostRight....you knew the guy was a rabid Anti-Semite and you said you saw nothing wrong with his cartoon that portrayed Israel in a very negative light.---------------------------------------------
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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This thread is getting too funny.
Judge Jude, what do you think of this quote from Matt Taibbi's recent article at Rolling Stone? You and I are both fans of Taibbi, so I figure he's a good source here.
Originally posted by Taibbi, Rolling StoneReporters watch as good investigative journalism about serious structural problems dies on the vine, while mountains of column space are devoted to trivialities like Trump tweets and/or simplistic partisan storylines. Nobody needs to pressure anyone. We all know what takes will and will not earn attaboys in newsrooms.
I'm seeing the big issue here being is that right wingers don't give apologies, and they don't accept apologies. They think apologies are for suckers. So it doesn't matter to the right wing whether or not Omar has discussed her supposed anti-semitic tweets in extensive detail, apologizing for any tweet or statement that used unintentional anti-semitic tropes... it all doesn't matter. You say stuff, then we judge, then it doesn't matter if you keep talking. Not fair? Tough. The right wing just wants to pigeon-hole and attack, no shits given for nuance.Larry David was once being heckled, long before any success. Heckler says "I'm taking my dog over to fuck your mother, weekly." Larry responds "I hate to tell you this, but your dog isn't liking it."
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Originally posted by nots View PostRight....you knew the guy was a rabid Anti-Semite and you said you saw nothing wrong with his cartoon that portrayed Israel in a very negative light.---------------------------------------------
Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984
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Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View PostSince i need to spell it out for u. The fact that he is anti-semitic does not mean that everyone who retweets one of his cartoons is anti-semitic. Shouldnt be that hard.---------------------------------------------
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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One more thought. It would seem to me that the point of their retweeting this was that they felt their voices were silenced, which is what the cartoon depicted Of course it could have been the only anti-semitic tweet they could find so they retweeted it since they hate Jews. Not really that hard to figure out---------------------------------------------
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View PostI don't need to rationalize the cartoon. That was discussed and I don't recall anyone here calling it vile, hateful or anti-Semitic If you want to move the goal post yet one more time we could talk about the cartoonists body of work, which appears to be disturbing. I don't defend that. It is unacceptable. However, his other work is not what was discussed . So please point out where I am anti-Semitic or just admit you hate Ilhan Omar and will label anyone who doesn't also hater her as anti-Semitic.
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