Election 2020

[nots]

Lizzy trying her best to become relevant:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/22/politics/elizabeth-warren-student-debt-college-tuition-plan/index.html

After already promising Med4All and Reparations, she is now out with a bold plan to cancel student debt, as well as make all 2 and 4 year public colleges free (in the hopes her candidacy actually appeals to someone). Plan is projected to cost 1.25T over 10 years, but she plans to pay for part of it with her 2% rich person tax. No word on where the rest of the money is to come from.
Desperate times call for desperate measures I guess, practicality be damned.

[DMT]

Yes, because practicality is of utmost importance, but only for Democrats.

[nots]

Yes, because practicality is of utmost importance, but only for Democrats.

Just because the GOP does stupid things, doesn’t mean your team needs to as well. But keep promising free stuff with no real thought into how to pay for it and then act surprised when Trump wins.

[Sour Masher]

Just because the GOP does stupid things, doesn’t mean your team needs to as well. But keep promising free stuff with no real thought into how to pay for it and then act surprised when Trump wins.

You mean like how Trump promised his supporters a border wall?

[The Feral Slasher]

I hate that we can waste half a billion dollars a year on the military budget that doesn't really benefit everyday Americans, but if something is proposed that does benefit them there is no money to pay for it.

[Sour Masher]

I hate that we can waste half a billion dollars a year on the military budget that doesn't really benefit everyday Americans, but if something is proposed that does benefit them there is no money to pay for it.

Do you mean half a trillion?

[The Feral Slasher]

Do you mean half a trillion?

yes. someone was paying attention

[DMT]

I hate our freedom

Fixed...

[Sour Masher]

yes. someone was paying attention

Based on past discussions, I can anticipate the retort. Despite the fact that there is near consensus among this group of posters, and I believe it is also the majority opinion of most Americans, that are defense budget is incredibly bloated, no politicians on either side will actually do anything t fix it in a substantive way, so it is what it is. So,we can't rely on saving there to pay for stuff I think almost all of us agree would make for a better use of tax dollars. It will be interesting to see if Bernie actually manages to put a dent in the defense budget, if he gets elected. Even with him, I guess he or his team knows it isn't a winning strategy to talk much about cuts there to help pay for things like M4A.

[Sour Masher]

Fixed...

LOL. So true. Any critique of the MIC immediately gets attacked as Un-American. It would be great if someone had the guts to push back.

[nots]

you mean like how trump promised his supporters a border wall?

5.4b< 1.25t.

[nots]

I hate that we can waste half a billion dollars a year on the military budget that doesn't really benefit everyday Americans, but if something is proposed that does benefit them there is no money to pay for it.

Did Sen Warren propose a cut in our military budget to pay in part for her new programs?

[nots]

Based on past discussions, I can anticipate the retort. Despite the fact that there is near consensus among this group of posters, and I believe it is also the majority opinion of most Americans, that are defense budget is incredibly bloated, no politicians on either side will actually do anything t fix it in a substantive way, so it is what it is. So,we can't rely on saving there to pay for stuff I think almost all of us agree would make for a better use of tax dollars. It will be interesting to see if Bernie actually manages to put a dent in the defense budget, if he gets elected. Even with him, I guess he or his team knows it isn't a winning strategy to talk much about cuts there to help pay for things like M4A.

He is probably the only one that might actually have the guts to address it.

[Teenwolf]

He is probably the only one that might actually have the guts to address it.

Also Tulsi Gabbard, and Gabbard has more weight behind her as a former service member. It's too bad she's got no shot. She's climbed into nearly either/or status with Bernie for me.

[The Feral Slasher]

Based on past discussions, I can anticipate the retort. Despite the fact that there is near consensus among this group of posters, and I believe it is also the majority opinion of most Americans, that are defense budget is incredibly bloated, no politicians on either side will actually do anything t fix it in a substantive way, so it is what it is. So,we can't rely on saving there to pay for stuff I think almost all of us agree would make for a better use of tax dollars. It will be interesting to see if Bernie actually manages to put a dent in the defense budget, if he gets elected. Even with him, I guess he or his team knows it isn't a winning strategy to talk much about cuts there to help pay for things like M4A.

yeah, I don't know how this gets turned around.