Election 2020

[Sour Masher]

channeling CBB?

No, ijay. Teddy's #1 fan.

[revo]

Amy Klobuchar officially enters the race -- the 5th Senator and 4th female entrant.

[Steve 2.0]

Haters will hate, so there are those who cannot see. However, unless you hated him from the start, you will admit that he's doing a very good job under difficult conditions.

J

[Judge Jude]

just watched Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar on with MNSBC's Rachel Maddow - who seems to be a big fan.

I've mentioned her here before, and she was solid. She got a little bit of a break in that two conflicting storylines have come out in the past few days since she announced.

One is that she is "Minnesota Nice," so some of her constituents are saying she can't survive the cruel world of Presidential politics.
The other is that she grinds up aides and spits them out, even allegedly tossing an item or two across a room or berating them.

well, that works out great - pick your concern about her, and the flip side helps even the score.

She and Harris seem to have the best very early footing so far.

[Sour Masher]

Amy Klobuchar officially enters the race -- the 5th Senator and 4th female entrant.

Still, don't know enough about her, but I've made a point to watch her speak a few times now--she seems genuine and likeable.

[In the Corn]

Klobuchar is pretty well liked here in Minnesota. Many conservative voters like her. She is a moderate, and IMO, that's the road Democrats need to take to beat Trump. If they bring out someone seen as too progressive/liberal, I think that is a losing proposition.

As someone who doesn't usually vote for the major parties. Klobuchar will get my vote. not like she won't carry MN anyway, but she is someone from a major party I can get behind.

[swampdragon]

Klobuchar is pretty well liked here in Minnesota. Many conservative voters like her. She is a moderate, and IMO, that's the road Democrats need to take to beat Trump. If they bring out someone seen as too progressive/liberal, I think that is a losing proposition.

As someone who doesn't usually vote for the major parties. Klobuchar will get my vote. not like she won't carry MN anyway, but she is someone from a major party I can get behind.

I am a liberal Democrat but would rather have a moderate win than a more left candidate lose
so
If you don't mind - Who have you voted for in the past presidential elections? Trying to see who would sway your vote.

[In the Corn]

I am a liberal Democrat but would rather have a moderate win than a more left candidate lose
so
If you don't mind - Who have you voted for in the past presidential elections? Trying to see who would sway your vote.

I have voted Libertarian Party the past four elections.

2016 - I would never vote for either Trump or Clinton. If Kasich had been nominated I would have voted major party in 2016.

I voted for Bush the first time, and I voted for Bill Clinton twice.

To give you some other perspective. I've voted for Klobuchar numerous times for Senate. I voted for Jesse Ventura for Governor years ago.

Democrats would easily win the 2020 Presidential Election with a moderate. They'll be in a battle if the go too far left.

[baldgriff]

I have voted Libertarian Party the past four elections.

2016 - I would never vote for either Trump or Clinton. If Kasich had been nominated I would have voted major party in 2016.

I voted for Bush the first time, and I voted for Bill Clinton twice.

To give you some other perspective. I've voted for Klobuchar numerous times for Senate. I voted for Jesse Ventura for Governor years ago.

Democrats would easily win the 2020 Presidential Election with a moderate. They'll be in a battle if the go too far left.

Just for clarity sake - ITC and I have never discussed who we "should" or "do" vote for.

[Kevin Seitzer]

Democrats would easily win the 2020 Presidential Election with a moderate. They'll be in a battle if the go too far left.

I think it's less about how liberal they go and more about whether their candidate has the charisma and political skill to outshine Trump and engage the voters. Obviously to some degree experience and policy positions matter, too, but if the Democrats lose to Trump, it's not going to be in those categories.

[swampdragon]

I have voted Libertarian Party the past four elections.

2016 - I would never vote for either Trump or Clinton. If Kasich had been nominated I would have voted major party in 2016.

I voted for Bush the first time, and I voted for Bill Clinton twice.

To give you some other perspective. I've voted for Klobuchar numerous times for Senate. I voted for Jesse Ventura for Governor years ago.

Democrats would easily win the 2020 Presidential Election with a moderate. They'll be in a battle if the go too far left.

thanks - this helps me understand things - many "undecided" or "non 2 party voters" really are not - you are

[Judge Jude]

Wall St Journal editorial on Klobuchar was so glowing that nearly felt like an October 2020 endorsement.
ex-GOP Chairman Michael Steele raved about her.
so did a half-dozen Republican Senators who said she is someone you can work with.

imagine if she beat Trump by 20 points while running like an adult who doesn't always expect to get her way and is willing to - gasp! - compromise.

politicians tend to be craven - far too many seem more than willing to act like clowns if it keeps them in office.

but if the American public insists that they grow up, many will probably do it. wouldn't THAT be interesting?

[Mithrandir]

thanks - this helps me understand things - many "undecided" or "non 2 party voters" really are not - you are

The last Democrat or GOP Presidential candidate that I voted for was Reagan in 1984. I was 19 and pretty clueless. (now I'm 53 and still clueless!!)

[Judge Jude]

attention, 2020 election scouts: Cory Booker coming on Rachel Maddow's show shortly.

iirc, they were Rhodes Scholars together in Oxford or Cambridge or wherever those people go

[Sour Masher]

Wall St Journal editorial on Klobuchar was so glowing that nearly felt like an October 2020 endorsement.
ex-GOP Chairman Michael Steele raved about her.
so did a half-dozen Republican Senators who said she is someone you can work with.

imagine if she beat Trump by 20 points while running like an adult who doesn't always expect to get her way and is willing to - gasp! - compromise.

politicians tend to be craven - far too many seem more than willing to act like clowns if it keeps them in office.

but if the American public insists that they grow up, many will probably do it. wouldn't THAT be interesting?

Yeah, I'm starting to dig her. The greeting staffers thing is off-putting, if true, but she otherwise seems like a strong candidate.