Election 2020

[Sour Masher]

I'm surrounded and I have a cough.

And I do hope it passes and is nothing. I'm sure it is. I just got over one myself. Tis the season, at least up here in the frigid north.

[GwynnInTheHall]

yes - that does sound odd

What's also odd is that Warren seems to have more support in the LGBTQ community than Buttigieg did before he dropped out. She seems to have most of the old HRC folks in her camp.

[GwynnInTheHall]

Yet as far as I can tell, GITH is the only person on this board who has threatened to abstain if his demands aren't met. Everyone else has agreed to consolidate behind the eventual nominee no matter who it is or how they got there.

Abstain?, do you actually read my posts or gloss them and assume you remember what I said?

[DMT]

What's also odd is that Warren seems to have more support in the LGBTQ community than Buttigieg did before he dropped out. She seems to have most of the old HRC folks in her camp.

Considering how soul-less they all are, not a surprise.

/sarcasm

[GwynnInTheHall]

Going by polling in 2016, I'd suspect it is because many of them are good at smiling and being polite and even saying they don't like Trump, before closing the door, calling you a commie, and pulling the lever for their man. But I realize I'm often cynical when it comes to Trump and his supporters.

Dude, some of the stories I've garnered in just a week. Some really sad, but some very hopeful and uplifting.

[DMT]

Abstain?, do you actually read my posts or gloss them and assume you remember what I said?

You have said that if Sanders has the most delegates going in but is somehow not the nominee, then you would consider that unfair. And therefore we deserve four more years of Trump. And you will tower above us in blissful schadenfreude. Or did I misinterpret?

[Sour Masher]

Dude, some of the stories I've garnered in just a week. Some really sad, but some very hopeful and uplifting.

Once the dust settles, I'd love for a long form post on your experience with this.

[GwynnInTheHall]

You have said that if Sanders has the most delegates going in but is somehow not the nominee, then you would consider that unfair. And therefore we deserve four more years of Trump. And you will tower above us in blissful schadenfreude. Or did I misinterpret?

Go back a few months in this thread, read my posts and you'll understand I've explained in in detail, which context is missing from your perspective of my actions come Nov 2.

[Ken]

Go back a few months in this thread, read my posts and you'll understand I've explained in in detail, which context is missing from your perspective of my actions come Nov 2.

IMO, asking someone to go back and read your posts across a few months is unreasonable and slightly haughty. It's certainly possible that you have a important point here, and if so just restate a quick summary of what you have said that's pertinent to the current discussion.

But an argument that someone has misread you, without taking 2 seconds to restate what your actual position is, comes off poorly and doesn't help your argument.

[The Feral Slasher]

I'm surrounded and I have a cough.

I've fallen and I can't get up !

[Sour Masher]

IMO, asking someone to go back and read your posts across a few months is unreasonable and slightly haughty. It's certainly possible that you have a important point here, and if so just restate a quick summary of what you have said that's pertinent to the current discussion.

But an argument that someone has misread you, without taking 2 seconds to restate what your actual position is, comes off poorly and doesn't help your argument.

I'd like clarity on it myself, because on the one hand GITH has said he would support the candidate if Bernie supports the candidate. But on the other hand, in 2016, even when Bernie endorsed HRC, GITH and others did not feel compelled to do that. They felt Bernie was treated poorly and could not come around to the nominee, even though Bernie was on board. So, I'm a little wary of another candidate beating Bernie on supers and getting support from his base, even if he comes out and says it is fair, because them the rules.

[GwynnInTheHall]

Clarity.

My vote won't matter. I live in Calif, which will vote for whomever the Democratic Nominee is, they will get all the delegates regardless of who get's the actual votes. So I can vote for a purple turkey without compromising the Grand Agenda.

That said--IF my vote mattered I would listen the Bernie because I believe (and have heard) That he will not endorse the nominee unless he believes he was treated fairly, which didn't happen last time--When again, my vote didn't matter as NV went HRC anyhow.

I didn't vote for Trump, I voted Johnson because you couldn't write in candidates in NV and I wasn't voting either Trump or HRC. In Cali, I can write in for the General. Sanders will be the name on my ballot in Nov unless he throws his endorsement to someone else.

That's my position and again--my vote really doesn't matter in the General.

[GwynnInTheHall]

Clarity.

My vote won't matter. I live in Calif, which will vote for whomever the Democratic Nominee is, they will get all the delegates regardless of who get's the actual votes. So I can vote for a purple turkey without compromising the Grand Agenda.

That said--IF my vote mattered I would listen the Bernie because I believe (and have heard) That he will not endorse the nominee unless he believes he was treated fairly, which didn't happen last time--When again, my vote didn't matter as NV went HRC anyhow.

I didn't vote for Trump, I voted Johnson because you couldn't write in candidates in NV and I wasn't voting either Trump or HRC. In Cali, I can write in for the General. Sanders will be the name on my ballot in Nov unless he throws his endorsement to someone else.

That's my position and again--my vote really doesn't matter in the General.

EDIT (cuz I know it's coming) Fairly means--If he goes into the convention with the most delegates--he should be the nominee. Period. He's not in favor of Supers deciding the issue (regardless if that's politics or not) so again, hope for a winner prior to the convention or whomever gets the most delegates comes out of any brokered convention as the nominee.

[The Feral Slasher]

Klobuchar drops out of the race and endorses Joe Biden for president

Maybe Warren is next to fall in line ?

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1234551067662340096

Pete Buttigieg plans to endorse Joe Biden for Democratic presidential nomination, campaign advisor says

[DMT]

Maybe Warren is next to fall in line ?

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1234551067662340096

Pete Buttigieg plans to endorse Joe Biden for Democratic presidential nomination, campaign advisor says

Bernie should be doing everything in his power to get her endorsement. Klobuchar and Buttigieg both endorsing Biden so he's going see a huge surge in momentum.

Or, as far too many Sanders supporters feel, fuck that phony.