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  • Sour Masher
    MVP
    • Jan 2011
    • 10425

    Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall
    I'm surrounded and I have a cough.
    And I do hope it passes and is nothing. I'm sure it is. I just got over one myself. Tis the season, at least up here in the frigid north.

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    • GwynnInTheHall
      All Star
      • Jan 2011
      • 9214

      Originally posted by swampdragon
      yes - that does sound odd
      What's also odd is that Warren seems to have more support in the LGBTQ community than Buttigieg did before he dropped out. She seems to have most of the old HRC folks in her camp.
      If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

      Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
      Martin Luther King, Jr.

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      • GwynnInTheHall
        All Star
        • Jan 2011
        • 9214

        Originally posted by DMT
        Yet as far as I can tell, GITH is the only person on this board who has threatened to abstain if his demands aren't met. Everyone else has agreed to consolidate behind the eventual nominee no matter who it is or how they got there.
        Abstain?, do you actually read my posts or gloss them and assume you remember what I said?
        If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

        Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
        Martin Luther King, Jr.

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        • DMT
          MVP
          • Jan 2011
          • 12012

          Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall
          What's also odd is that Warren seems to have more support in the LGBTQ community than Buttigieg did before he dropped out. She seems to have most of the old HRC folks in her camp.
          Considering how soul-less they all are, not a surprise.

          /sarcasm
          If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
          - Terence McKenna

          Bullshit is everywhere. - George Carlin (& Jon Stewart)

          How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige

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          • GwynnInTheHall
            All Star
            • Jan 2011
            • 9214

            Originally posted by Sour Masher
            Going by polling in 2016, I'd suspect it is because many of them are good at smiling and being polite and even saying they don't like Trump, before closing the door, calling you a commie, and pulling the lever for their man. But I realize I'm often cynical when it comes to Trump and his supporters.
            Dude, some of the stories I've garnered in just a week. Some really sad, but some very hopeful and uplifting.
            If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

            Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
            Martin Luther King, Jr.

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            • DMT
              MVP
              • Jan 2011
              • 12012

              Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall
              Abstain?, do you actually read my posts or gloss them and assume you remember what I said?
              You have said that if Sanders has the most delegates going in but is somehow not the nominee, then you would consider that unfair. And therefore we deserve four more years of Trump. And you will tower above us in blissful schadenfreude. Or did I misinterpret?
              If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
              - Terence McKenna

              Bullshit is everywhere. - George Carlin (& Jon Stewart)

              How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige

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              • Sour Masher
                MVP
                • Jan 2011
                • 10425

                Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall
                Dude, some of the stories I've garnered in just a week. Some really sad, but some very hopeful and uplifting.
                Once the dust settles, I'd love for a long form post on your experience with this.

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                • GwynnInTheHall
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 9214

                  Originally posted by DMT
                  You have said that if Sanders has the most delegates going in but is somehow not the nominee, then you would consider that unfair. And therefore we deserve four more years of Trump. And you will tower above us in blissful schadenfreude. Or did I misinterpret?
                  Go back a few months in this thread, read my posts and you'll understand I've explained in in detail, which context is missing from your perspective of my actions come Nov 2.
                  If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                  Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                  Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                  • Ken
                    Administrator
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 10979

                    Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall
                    Go back a few months in this thread, read my posts and you'll understand I've explained in in detail, which context is missing from your perspective of my actions come Nov 2.
                    IMO, asking someone to go back and read your posts across a few months is unreasonable and slightly haughty. It's certainly possible that you have a important point here, and if so just restate a quick summary of what you have said that's pertinent to the current discussion.

                    But an argument that someone has misread you, without taking 2 seconds to restate what your actual position is, comes off poorly and doesn't help your argument.

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                    • The Feral Slasher
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 13398

                      Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall
                      I'm surrounded and I have a cough.
                      I've fallen and I can't get up !
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                      Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                      The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                      George Orwell, 1984

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                      • Sour Masher
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 10425

                        Originally posted by Ken
                        IMO, asking someone to go back and read your posts across a few months is unreasonable and slightly haughty. It's certainly possible that you have a important point here, and if so just restate a quick summary of what you have said that's pertinent to the current discussion.

                        But an argument that someone has misread you, without taking 2 seconds to restate what your actual position is, comes off poorly and doesn't help your argument.
                        I'd like clarity on it myself, because on the one hand GITH has said he would support the candidate if Bernie supports the candidate. But on the other hand, in 2016, even when Bernie endorsed HRC, GITH and others did not feel compelled to do that. They felt Bernie was treated poorly and could not come around to the nominee, even though Bernie was on board. So, I'm a little wary of another candidate beating Bernie on supers and getting support from his base, even if he comes out and says it is fair, because them the rules.

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                        • GwynnInTheHall
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 9214

                          Clarity.

                          My vote won't matter. I live in Calif, which will vote for whomever the Democratic Nominee is, they will get all the delegates regardless of who get's the actual votes. So I can vote for a purple turkey without compromising the Grand Agenda.

                          That said--IF my vote mattered I would listen the Bernie because I believe (and have heard) That he will not endorse the nominee unless he believes he was treated fairly, which didn't happen last time--When again, my vote didn't matter as NV went HRC anyhow.

                          I didn't vote for Trump, I voted Johnson because you couldn't write in candidates in NV and I wasn't voting either Trump or HRC. In Cali, I can write in for the General. Sanders will be the name on my ballot in Nov unless he throws his endorsement to someone else.

                          That's my position and again--my vote really doesn't matter in the General.
                          If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                          Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                          Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                          • GwynnInTheHall
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 9214

                            Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall
                            Clarity.

                            My vote won't matter. I live in Calif, which will vote for whomever the Democratic Nominee is, they will get all the delegates regardless of who get's the actual votes. So I can vote for a purple turkey without compromising the Grand Agenda.

                            That said--IF my vote mattered I would listen the Bernie because I believe (and have heard) That he will not endorse the nominee unless he believes he was treated fairly, which didn't happen last time--When again, my vote didn't matter as NV went HRC anyhow.

                            I didn't vote for Trump, I voted Johnson because you couldn't write in candidates in NV and I wasn't voting either Trump or HRC. In Cali, I can write in for the General. Sanders will be the name on my ballot in Nov unless he throws his endorsement to someone else.

                            That's my position and again--my vote really doesn't matter in the General.
                            EDIT (cuz I know it's coming) Fairly means--If he goes into the convention with the most delegates--he should be the nominee. Period. He's not in favor of Supers deciding the issue (regardless if that's politics or not) so again, hope for a winner prior to the convention or whomever gets the most delegates comes out of any brokered convention as the nominee.
                            If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                            Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                            Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                            • The Feral Slasher
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 13398

                              Originally posted by revo
                              Klobuchar drops out of the race and endorses Joe Biden for president
                              Maybe Warren is next to fall in line ?




                              Pete Buttigieg plans to endorse Joe Biden for Democratic presidential nomination, campaign advisor says
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                              Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
                              ---------------------------------------------
                              The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                              George Orwell, 1984

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                              • DMT
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 12012

                                Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
                                Maybe Warren is next to fall in line ?




                                Pete Buttigieg plans to endorse Joe Biden for Democratic presidential nomination, campaign advisor says
                                Bernie should be doing everything in his power to get her endorsement. Klobuchar and Buttigieg both endorsing Biden so he's going see a huge surge in momentum.

                                Or, as far too many Sanders supporters feel, fuck that phony.
                                If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
                                - Terence McKenna

                                Bullshit is everywhere. - George Carlin (& Jon Stewart)

                                How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige

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