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Originally posted by B-Fly View PostI'm not a cheerleader. I think they're constantly tripping over their own feet. I just don't think they're deliberately trying to help Buttigieg and hurt Sanders, since as I noted above, I think Buttigieg has no chance without Black support and thus keeping him alive only hurts Biden and Bloomberg.
They're not trying to elevate a winner, they're just hoping to keep Sanders as far below the 1990 delegate threshold to win the nomination as possible before super delegates can pick their choice on the 2nd round.Larry David was once being heckled, long before any success. Heckler says "I'm taking my dog over to fuck your mother, weekly." Larry responds "I hate to tell you this, but your dog isn't liking it."
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Originally posted by nots View PostVery interesting interview with James Carville. Worth the read.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...james-carvilleIf DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
- Terence McKenna
Bullshit is everywhere. - George Carlin (& Jon Stewart)
How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige
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Originally posted by DMT View PostIt's really not IMO.
Carville has had a rather outsized influence in American politics for a couple of decades. Agree or disagree with him, his take on things is interesting and relevant. Shallow is the individual that can’t recognize that.Last edited by nots; 02-07-2020, 05:18 PM.
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Originally posted by DMT View PostIt's really not IMO.
Stop being such a troll.Larry David was once being heckled, long before any success. Heckler says "I'm taking my dog over to fuck your mother, weekly." Larry responds "I hate to tell you this, but your dog isn't liking it."
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I think James Carville is an out of touch dinosaur. He made his living on a reputation as the ultimate centrist (married a Republican... whoop-dee-doo), so he's tied his entire being into the value of political compromise, left and right should both look to the center to find agreement. I disagree with him on basically everything.
I understand his primary concern about going too far left, but I think he's completely out of touch with the electorate, and I also believe Sanders will modify his most extreme messages to cater towards a general election anyway. Sanders' rhetoric on the border will reassure centrists, as he fights hard against the notion of open borders. I think he'll be okay on many of the issues Carville fears.Larry David was once being heckled, long before any success. Heckler says "I'm taking my dog over to fuck your mother, weekly." Larry responds "I hate to tell you this, but your dog isn't liking it."
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Originally posted by Teenwolf View Post
I understand his primary concern about going too far left, but I think he's completely out of touch with the electorate,
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It must be a pro Youtube Sanders conspiracy, cuz I keep getting good Sanders videos in my feed. In this one from 1995, he looks pretty much exactly like he does today. And, big surprise, he was just as progressive then as now. It is a good look on him at a time before being pro-gays in the military was fully accepted. And for calling out that guy for using a slur.
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Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostIt must be a pro Youtube Sanders conspiracy, cuz I keep getting good Sanders videos in my feed. In this one from 1995, he looks pretty much exactly like he does today. And, big surprise, he was just as progressive then as now. It is a good look on him at a time before being pro-gays in the military was fully accepted. And for calling out that guy for using a slur.
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Archer is a Bernie Bro, who knew? This is Bernie's pitch for how to pay for M4All. The costs are scary to me and many, many others, but morally it is the one (and only) socialist solution I support. I believe it is a basic human right and I wish we could implement it without it costing a ton more for middle class folks, which is the fear and what keeps it from happening. Those against M4All, poke holes in how paying for it is laid out here. I want to hear opposing views.
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Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostArcher is a Bernie Bro, who knew? This is Bernie's pitch for how to pay for M4All. The costs are scary to me and many, many others, but morally it is the one (and only) socialist solution I support. I believe it is a basic human right and I wish we could implement it without it costing a ton more for middle class folks, which is the fear and what keeps it from happening. Those against M4All, poke holes in how paying for it is laid out here. I want to hear opposing views.
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Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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The premise makes sense--it should cost less to cut out middle men making billions and reducing half a trillion in paperwork and processing a year. I guess the only thing left unsaid is when he says "tax the rich" how far down will he actually go before he gets what he needs to fund it? Can taxing just millionaires get it done? Nots, I think you have shown the math on this suggesting it is not possible. Will the middle class folks who have employer health insurance end up not just losing choices, but paying more? That assumption is pretty much why getting this passed is impossible. Is it valid?
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