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  • The Feral Slasher
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 13396

    Originally posted by Sour Masher
    At least you admit he is smooth!
    In the douche baggy i am lying to you way he is super smooth
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    Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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    The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
    George Orwell, 1984

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    • Sour Masher
      MVP
      • Jan 2011
      • 10425

      Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
      In the douche baggy i am lying to you way he is super smooth
      What do you think he is lying about? (everything is too easy an answer).

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      • The Feral Slasher
        MVP
        • Oct 2011
        • 13396

        Originally posted by Sour Masher
        What do you think he is lying about? (everything is too easy an answer).
        Too slow i can't remember
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        Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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        The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
        George Orwell, 1984

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        • The Feral Slasher
          MVP
          • Oct 2011
          • 13396

          Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
          Too slow i can't remember
          Believe him at your own risk
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          Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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          The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
          George Orwell, 1984

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          • The Feral Slasher
            MVP
            • Oct 2011
            • 13396

            Originally posted by Sour Masher
            What do you think he is lying about? (everything is too easy an answer).
            So what was your opinion on the bernie/warren exchange?
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            Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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            The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
            George Orwell, 1984

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            • Sour Masher
              MVP
              • Jan 2011
              • 10425

              Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
              So what was your opinion on the bernie/warren exchange?
              I didn't see it, just read about it. The account is what I thought it would be. I like Bernie just as much as I did before, and Warren a little less for what appears to have been a calculated move to make this a thing right now for a fellow that doesn't deserve it. These are as a person feelings. I still think Warren would make a fine president.

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              • The Feral Slasher
                MVP
                • Oct 2011
                • 13396

                Honestly the whole thing was pretty meaningless. But we can see.what the experts tell us
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                Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                George Orwell, 1984

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                • Sour Masher
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 10425

                  Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
                  Believe him at your own risk
                  I believe he'd be a better president than Trump, and I believe if he got the chance, he'd eviscerate Trump in debates, if Trump shows up to them. But I know how you feel about electability as a criteria for backing a candidate.

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                  • The Feral Slasher
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 13396

                    Originally posted by Sour Masher
                    I didn't see it, just read about it. The account is what I thought it would be. I like Bernie just as much as I did before, and Warren a little less for what appears to have been a calculated move to make this a thing right now for a fellow that doesn't deserve it. These are as a person feelings. I still think Warren would make a fine president.
                    I would not.be unhappy at all if she was elected. But she seemed very weak on an issue she elevated
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                    Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                    The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                    George Orwell, 1984

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                    • The Feral Slasher
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 13396

                      Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
                      I would not.be unhappy at all if she was elected. But she seemed very weak on an issue she elevated
                      Bernie basically called bullshit and she danced around. For all that matters
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                      Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                      The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                      George Orwell, 1984

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                      • The Feral Slasher
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 13396

                        Originally posted by Sour Masher
                        I believe he'd be a better president than Trump, and I believe if he got the chance, he'd eviscerate Trump in debates, if Trump shows up to them. But I know how you feel about electability as a criteria for backing a candidate.
                        If u like and trust him then support him. Being better than trump is a very low bar
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                        Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                        The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                        George Orwell, 1984

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                        • Sour Masher
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 10425

                          Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
                          Bernie basically called bullshit and she danced around. For all that matters
                          I think Bernie's approach to solving problems is a little ham-fisted and sometimes go farther than I would and are overly/needlessly costly. For instance, I wholly agree that higher education costs are a real and ever-growing problem in the country. I paid my way through college with minimal debt, and I would not be able to do that if I were going today. But universal free rides goes farther than it needs to and will have some unintended consequences (just one being that I see entirely too many kids now that go to college cuz it is expected of them, but don't care for higher ed and don't end up using their degrees--that number would go up if it were free).

                          That is the preamble to this--I have always admired the man, and that is growing to a tipping point. It is so rare, so refreshing to see a man whose whole life has been devoted to the good of others, whose consistency can be counted on like the rising of the sun, whose integrity is unwavering. I would not want every single thing Bernie wants to do to come about exactly as he'd want it. But I also do not think he'd be able to do that as president, and I am coming around to the idea that he should be the one to be there fighting the good fight--because he will, as he always has. He is like Mr. Rogers for me--I am not a Christian, but I admire how he lived his life. I am not in line with all Bernie's ideas, but I admire the guy like no one else in politics right now.

                          I just wish he were about 10 years younger and didn't have a recent heart attack. I know I keep harping on this, but him going down for health reasons in the general scares me!

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                          • Sour Masher
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 10425

                            Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
                            If u like and trust him then support him. Being better than trump is a very low bar
                            Beating Trump, depressingly, is turning out NOT to be a low bar. If the candidate cannot beat Trump, his or her agenda does not matter. You and I see electability differently. That won't change. Not in this election, not against Trump. We need to beat him and replace him with someone better. All the candidates are so, so much better. I will support anyone who ends up facing him 100%.

                            ETA: My main electability issues for Pete are related to his horrid support among AA. Huge red flag. He won't beat Trump if he can't get the AA vote to turn out. And, of course, he won't even make it that far, largely for the same reason.
                            Last edited by Sour Masher; 01-14-2020, 11:45 PM.

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                            • The Feral Slasher
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 13396

                              Originally posted by Sour Masher
                              Beating Trump, depressingly, is turning out NOT to be a low bar. If the candidate cannot beat Trump, his or her agenda does not matter. You and I see electability differently. That won't change. Not in this election, not against Trump. We need to beat him and replace him with someone better. All the candidates are so, so much better. I will support anyone who ends up facing him 100%.

                              ETA: My main electability issues for Pete are related to his horrid support among AA. Huge red flag. He won't beat Trump if he can't get the AA vote to turn out. And, of course, he won't even make it that far, largely for the same reason.
                              I am so tired of the "better than trump" discussion. It is not even worth talking about. 8 years of Obama and he didnt do enough for people to show up against an orange clown. Maybe the.dems need to actually have some polices people will vote for
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                              Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                              The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                              George Orwell, 1984

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                              • The Feral Slasher
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 13396

                                Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
                                I am so tired of the "better than trump" discussion. It is not even worth talking about. 8 years of Obama and he didnt do enough for people to show up against an orange clown. Maybe the.dems need to actually have some polices people will vote for
                                How did better than trump work in 2016 ?
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                                Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                                The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                                George Orwell, 1984

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