Election 2020

[revo]

That might be, and if he wants to be president, he needs to enter the primaries and fight for it now. I just worry he or one of the other centrist, business-first billionaires decides to play spoiler if Sanders or Warren emerge as the Democratic nomination.

He's talking only about re-entering the Dem primaries, not as a 3rd party candidate. Man, I'd love to see him come back into the race.

[Sour Masher]

He's talking only about re-entering the Dem primaries, not as a 3rd party candidate. Man, I'd love to see him come back into the race.

If it does it really soon, I would like to see him back in too. He needs to decide soon. I guess I am more worried about Steyer, who has made this threat before. Maybe if Bloomberg runs now, regardless of the outcome, Steyer will see a viable centrist was given a fair shake and stay out of it.

[Sour Masher]

In a recent interview, Harry Reid tells David Axelrod that he doesn’t think Elizabeth Warren will follow through on ‘Medicare for All.’ “Give her some time, I think that she’s not in love with that, I think that she, you’ll wait and see how that all turns out... oh I know she’s pragmatic, just wait”

Reid personally told Warren to run back in 2017. But I'm sure he's just mistaken about her 'pragmatism', right? He's just out there giving an endorsement for Warren without understanding her stance on health care... gimme a break.

As my recent posts indicate, I am most worried at the moment about a spoiler centrist running independent in the general. Despite your feelings that Warren is a fake progressive, she is still super, duper too progressive for many, and she scares the super rich and corporate interests. Now that she is emerging as viable, and Biden is showing weakness against her, I think it is wise for her and her surrogates to play up her "pragmatic" side. If she outlasts Sanders, she will have the progressive vote locked down. She will need to play to the center in the general to win.

[DMT]

In a recent interview, Harry Reid tells David Axelrod that he doesn’t think Elizabeth Warren will follow through on ‘Medicare for All.’ “Give her some time, I think that she’s not in love with that, I think that she, you’ll wait and see how that all turns out... oh I know she’s pragmatic, just wait”

Reid personally told Warren to run back in 2017. But I'm sure he's just mistaken about her 'pragmatism', right? He's just out there giving an endorsement for Warren without understanding her stance on health care... gimme a break.

So a Harry Reid interview reveals the "truth" while all the other stories covering how much the billionaires fear her is just party of the corporate media propping up her bona fides. Oh, and pragmatism is bad. It's not surprising that people confuse the far left with the right.

[Teenwolf]

So a Harry Reid interview reveals the "truth" while all the other stories covering how much the billionaires fear her is just party of the corporate media propping up her bona fides. Oh, and pragmatism is bad. It's not surprising that people confuse the far left with the right.

Enjoy your Medicare option. I promise to be here to laugh at all of you when it happens.

[Gregg]

Enjoy your Medicare option. I promise to be here to laugh at all of you when it happens.

Do you see how a response like this might damage your credibility on other topics (non baseball related)?

Kind of a Democratic Trump?

[Teenwolf]

Do you see how a response like this might damage your credibility on other topics (non baseball related)?

Kind of a Democratic Trump?

I have zero credibility here, I'm just putting it into the record for later. Even when a jackass like gcstomp rages on me, drops a bunch of personal insults and physical threats, he's too pathetic to respond to the actual articles I posted that disprove his points. Gregg calling me Trump is like the sun rising. I can always depend on you, buddy.

In short, I don't give a fuck. I'm here to laugh at anybody voting for Warren uncritically, who brushes off my critiques as biased, because I think it's hilarious. At least B-Fly supports Warren because he wants a war hawk, the rest of you simply deny reality and respond to the articles I post with "nuh-uh". If you can't see the truth in front of your face, you deserve 4 years of neoliberal bullshit.

[Gregg]

I have zero credibility here, I'm just putting it into the record for later. Even when a jackass like gcstomp rages on me, drops a bunch of personal insults and physical threats, he's too pathetic to respond to the actual articles I posted that disprove his points. Gregg calling me Trump is like the sun rising. I can always depend on you, buddy.

In short, I don't give a fuck. I'm here to laugh at anybody voting for Warren uncritically, who brushes off my critiques as biased, because I think it's hilarious. At least B-Fly supports Warren because he wants a war hawk, the rest of you simply deny reality and respond to the articles I post with "nuh-uh". If you can't see the truth in front of your face, you deserve 4 years of neoliberal bullshit.

Except you do not have zero credibility here. I actually think you are very smart. Your anger and immaturity on how you handle it clouds my ability to fully hear you.

I have to filter out what good points you make against your obvious bias. As someone who does not like politics this is a massive effort for me and I am sure I get some things wrong.

I do not hate you for your politics. I do not dislike you as a human being. I do not want you to leave RJ.

I certainly dislike your mean spirited and hateful replies. Since this is the hot topic section. I get to focus on my hot buttons.

[DMT]

Calling Warren neo-liberal is hilarious. It exposes your position as a socialist and anything less is impure, phony, hypocritical, blah blah blah blah.

[Teenwolf]

Calling Warren neo-liberal is hilarious. It exposes your position as a socialist and anything less is impure, phony, hypocritical, blah blah blah blah.

You've never had substantive arguments regarding Warren's flaws. I don't take you seriously either.

[DMT]

You've never had substantive arguments regarding Warren's flaws. I don't take you seriously either.

Warren's biggest flaw for most of the country is that she will be perceived as too far left. But you and the rest of the hard-core left feel she's a phony progressive. Your 'evidence' of her phoniness is flimsy and the reason it never sticks is because it's mostly hysterical and off-base.

[gcstomp]

"jackass like gcstomp rages on me, drops a bunch of personal insults and physical threats, he's too pathetic to respond to the actual articles I posted that disprove his points"

not quite what happened. someone hit me with pot shot with some vulgar language. i hit back. i did refute parts with facts, such as article you posted that i read and i quoted backed up my assertion of "up to 50k a month" and I didnt use vulgarity, from what i recall. i do acknowledge i didnt respond in proportional manner. its cool you feel some positive in taking pot shots at me. fruits of the poisoned tree, tainted, your anger is understandable, i will not interupt your shadow boxing.

[Igor]

I first got exposed to Warren watching PBS Frontline in back 2004, a episode about the credit card industry. She made an impression then, and have been a fan since. I would have her over Bernie any day when it comes to understanding/regulating the economic system. Why would I pick an amateur over a professional? One talks it, the other walks it.

[Teenwolf]

"jackass like gcstomp rages on me, drops a bunch of personal insults and physical threats, he's too pathetic to respond to the actual articles I posted that disprove his points"

not quite what happened. someone hit me with pot shot with some vulgar language. i hit back. i did refute parts with facts, such as article you posted that i read and i quoted backed up my assertion of "up to 50k a month" and I didnt use vulgarity, from what i recall. i do acknowledge i didnt respond in proportional manner. its cool you feel some positive in taking pot shots at me. fruits of the poisoned tree, tainted, your anger is understandable, i will not interupt your shadow boxing.

Funny that you claimed at the time Hunter Biden was fully qualified for the position and his actions didn't even appear corrupt. Funny because Hunter Biden himself just stepped down from the Chinese investment firm he was a board member of (yet he didn't divest his stock holdings), AND Joe Biden has come out saying his children wouldn't serve on foreign boards under his administration.

I claimed the entire time that regardless of Hunter Biden's actions, the appearance of corruption needed to be addressed. Now Hunter and Joe are making moves to limit the appearance of corruption.

I was right about the Bidens, and they've proven it.

[gcstomp]

teen you are not correct in what i said on a few fronts. i didnt say Hunter was "fully qualified and his actions did't even appear corrupt".

Post 7572 I said :"i see mention of a 50k a month job, and when it appeared there would be conflict of interest appearances son refused a 2nd term. in any case it was the son taking advantage of fathers name recognition to land a 50k a month job he was not resume solid with, and without joe biden having even known about son taking position until some time had passed. this isnt a biden corruption issue. it is a son taking advantage of father name to make a better living that wasnt fully earned, though at least son had a law degree. he was more qualified that many trump appointees to thir positions.

still to compare trump call with biden issue is just different levels. i would say son complicated issues with what could be perceived to be shady self dealing, though no laws broken. son did no favors for father though. no corruption on part of joe biden. yes corruption by trump."

Bidens have handled this fallout as well as anyone could have hoped on this non issue that has been investigated and claims of wrong doing found to be without basis though clearly not a good look. Not surprising at all to me how joe and hunter have handled this, so not sure what your use of funny this means. in any case, this isnt wont be the death of bidens campaign. now the sinking of bidens campaign may be if he looks even more bewildered on next debate stage, and appears to be forgetful or incoherent and lost a step next to other candidates.