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Originally posted by baldgriff View PostI would include abstinence in the education as it is a 100% way to avoid pregnancy. That said - I agree - strictly abstinence based is short sighted and is based on some idea that pre-marital sex just doesnt occur. This is a topic where young adults need to be provided with as much information as possible in order to make decisions keeping them from getting into the position of have to make a decision about abortion.
Read much - or only the part that you want to remember? Cmon - Im the one who agreed with DMT here who actually stated that abstinence based is short sighted.
Just because I say that I would include it - doesnt mean that is the only thing that should be taught. You know that part about "where young adults need to be provided with as much information as possible.."
But you keep making me out to be the intolerant ultra conservative guy.It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra
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Originally posted by baldgriff View PostHEY TW -
Read much - or only the part that you want to remember? Cmon - Im the one who agreed with DMT here who actually stated that abstinence based is short sighted.
Just because I say that I would include it - doesnt mean that is the only thing that should be taught. You know that part about "where young adults need to be provided with as much information as possible.."
But you keep making me out to be the intolerant ultra conservative guy.
I appreciate the clarification, but dont assume I'm out to get you.Larry David was once being heckled, long before any success. Heckler says "I'm taking my dog over to fuck your mother, weekly." Larry responds "I hate to tell you this, but your dog isn't liking it."
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I think we can all agree that the trend here is very good, no?
The United States’ abortion rate has fallen dramatically over the past decade, new federal data shows.
A new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that the national abortion rate declined 26 percent between 2006 and 2015, hitting the lowest level that the government has on record.
The abortion ratio — the proportion of abortions to live births — is also down to historic lows. In 2005, the abortion ratio was about 233 abortions for every 1,000 live births; in 2015, it was 188 abortions for 1,000 live births.
This decline in abortions is happening amid other positive trends in reproductive health. The number of teen pregnancies in the United States, for example, has decreased dramatically since the 1990s — and a lot of that seems to have to do with young adults using better contraception.
At a very basic level, it's obvious: If you want fewer abortions, the best way to achieve that is affirmatively to help women avoid unwanted pregnancies.
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Originally posted by B-Fly View PostIf DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
- Terence McKenna
Bullshit is everywhere. - George Carlin (& Jon Stewart)
How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige
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Originally posted by DMT View PostExcellent indeed! Now if we could just eliminate funding for "abstinence-only education" programs, that number would likely fall even further.It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra
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Originally posted by baldgriff View PostAgreed - we have to fully teach our children how to avoid having children. This education should range from abstinence to various forms of birth control. One has to admit that making sure we teach the surest way not to conceive babies should at a minimum be in the curriculum. That said, we should recognize that many youth and young adults have sexual relationships, and if we dont teach them about birth control we are doing them no favors.If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
- Terence McKenna
Bullshit is everywhere. - George Carlin (& Jon Stewart)
How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige
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Originally posted by Fresno Bob View Postnot pro-choice, pro-abortion. I think that there is no more unalienable right than the right to control ones own reproductive process. I'd also be 100% fine with a date set in the 20-24 week range where abortion is only available to protect the health of the mother.
I think that more people should have abortions than they do now. I also think that if you go on welfare, you should have to get temporarily sterilized until you come off welfare.
Insert *notsureifserious* face
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Originally posted by johnnya24 View PostWait what?
Insert *notsureifserious* faceIt is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra
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Originally posted by johnnya24 View Post2 pages of boilerplate partisan pro-anti abortion comments, and everyone just ignores the forced sterilization commentIt is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra
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I stand by it although I know it is extreme. I also would make it temporary and reverseable, like with the Norplant. It would also need to apply to men and women."You know what's wrong with America? If I lovingly tongue a woman's nipple in a movie, it gets an "NC-17" rating, if I chop it off with a machete, it's an "R". That's what's wrong with America, man...."--Dennis Hopper
"One should judge a man mainly from his depravities. Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real." -- Klaus Kinski
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Originally posted by baldgriff View Postactually - I believe ITC asked him about this.
I'm pro-life, but I agree that abortion should be legal. I want woman who make the decision to terminate their pregnancy to be able to do it in as safe a way as possible."Looks like I picked a bad day to give up sniffing glue.
- Steven McCrosky (Lloyd Bridges) in Airplane
i have epiphanies like that all the time. for example i was watching a basketball game today and realized pom poms are like a pair of tits. there's 2 of them. they're round. they shake. women play with them. thus instead of having two, cheerleaders have four boobs.
- nullnor, speaking on immigration law in AZ.
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If you are going to be carried on the government dime, you need to be focused on improving yourself, your situation, your skills, not raising an infant (or impregnating women) in my opinion, which I understand is extreme....."You know what's wrong with America? If I lovingly tongue a woman's nipple in a movie, it gets an "NC-17" rating, if I chop it off with a machete, it's an "R". That's what's wrong with America, man...."--Dennis Hopper
"One should judge a man mainly from his depravities. Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real." -- Klaus Kinski
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Originally posted by Fresno Bob View PostIf you are going to be carried on the government dime, you need to be focused on improving yourself, your situation, your skills, not raising an infant (or impregnating women) in my opinion, which I understand is extreme.....- Parents with kids on free and reduced lunch
- 100% disabled people
- Students with financial aid
- Those receiving a subsidy from the ACA
Where do draw the line?"Looks like I picked a bad day to give up sniffing glue.
- Steven McCrosky (Lloyd Bridges) in Airplane
i have epiphanies like that all the time. for example i was watching a basketball game today and realized pom poms are like a pair of tits. there's 2 of them. they're round. they shake. women play with them. thus instead of having two, cheerleaders have four boobs.
- nullnor, speaking on immigration law in AZ.
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