Democratic Party 2017 and beyond

[onejayhawk]

It really hit home for me this election that in some places, ALL that matters is the letter by the name to most folks. There are a few cases where I really hoped the measure of the candidate would be taken, on both sides, and people would flip, but it didn't happen.

True that. The Democrats did best when they brought in new blood for the House races, much of it former military. When they went heavily to the left, like Beto O’Rourke, and Andrew Gillum, they were not as successful. The really big news is youth. The face of the party is currently over 70 years old. Maybe they will eventually move back to the party I used to vote for.

I think the Democrats should honor Jim Clyburn with the Speakership. Yes, he's also old, but he's tough to demonize.

So was Brett Kavanaugh.

J

[frae]

When they went heavily to the left, like Beto O’Rourke, and Andrew Gillum, they were not as successful. The really big news is youth. The face of the party is currently over 70 years old.

J

Ok come on you have to admit Beto is a good candidate now he is going to lose 51-48 in TX. You had this race over 6 points I think. He didn't win and in the end that matters, but he clearly had a lot of support in TX and not just outside the state.

[Bernie Brewer]

Ok come on you have to admit Beto is a good candidate now he is going to lose 51-48 in TX. You had this race over 6 points I think. He didn't win and in the end that matters, but he clearly had a lot of support in TX and not just outside the state.

Beto was/is a very charismatic and likable candidate. He has a very bright future, whether it’s in Texas or on a larger stage. I have no idea how, with his genuine and warm personality, he could lose to a complete DB like Cruz. Cruz is so dislikable and I say that as a recovering Republican.

[hacko]

Beto was/is a very charismatic and likable candidate. He has a very bright future, whether it’s in Texas or on a larger stage. I have no idea how, with his genuine and warm personality, he could lose to a complete DB like Cruz. Cruz is so dislikable and I say that as a recovering Republican.

Also being a recovering Republican - Who lives in a very red county . You have a ton of people that pull the R level every time - no matter what DB is on the ballet. I had a very popular football coach that was a Legend in our area who was a D and decided to run for office . I told him he had no chance, he said everyone told him to run it would be a landslide . It was he was crushed. No D is going to win in my county.

[cardboardbox]

Cruz is so dislikable

which is the only reason it was even close. If Cruz were just average likeability he would have won by another 5-7 points.

[onejayhawk]

Ok come on you have to admit Beto is a good candidate now he is going to lose 51-48 in TX. You had this race over 6 points I think. He didn't win and in the end that matters, but he clearly had a lot of support in TX and not just outside the state.

Yes, he would make good candidate in California or even New Mexico. Yes he polled 48%. Cruz was incumbent but Beto was also the wrong guy for the situation. Beto had record donations, a huge ground team courtesy of the DNC, and a ton of TV advertising. Even massively outspending Cruz it was not all that close.

J

[chancellor]

For some reason I can’t get the link to work. But you’re right on being disappointed. I was the same when I saw the three (Collins, Menendez and the Cali guy) “winners” from last night. The Bunny ranch owner winning while dead is just plain silly.

Well, there is the argument that a dead politician can do less damage than a live one.....

[Bernie Brewer]

Well, there is the argument that a dead politician can do less damage than a live one.....

True that!

[cardboardbox]

Well, there is the argument that a dead politician can do less damage than a live one.....

I dont know, dead voters do just as much damage as live ones.

[onejayhawk]

Well, there is the argument that a dead politician can do less damage than a live one.....

After the Kavanaugh saga that may not be true of Supreme Court Justices.

J

[swampdragon]

Is Sherrod Brown a viable presidential candidate?

[nullnor]

Yes, he would make good candidate in California or even New Mexico. Yes he polled 48%. Cruz was incumbent but Beto was also the wrong guy for the situation. Beto had record donations, a huge ground team courtesy of the DNC, and a ton of TV advertising. Even massively outspending Cruz it was not all that close.

J

they said there was a lot of dark money coming in for Cruz. whatever that means. i am not sure i'd go patting myself on the back saying he was massively outspent. i don't know.

[chancellor]

Is Sherrod Brown a viable presidential candidate?

I sure hope Democrats think so.

[hacko]

Is Sherrod Brown a viable presidential candidate?

No - think Dukakis

[onejayhawk]

they said there was a lot of dark money coming in for Cruz. whatever that means. i am not sure i'd go patting myself on the back saying he was massively outspent. i don't know.

Who is they and where are they saying it. In any event, I did not say Cruz was massively outspent only that Beto spent a ton.

J