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Originally posted by chancellor
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I'll dive into this instead of baseball and food....in very simplistic terms.
#1 - Not on his own, IMO. You'll hear some quoting part of Article 2, Section 3 about adjourning the two branches of Congress, but he could only do that if the House and Senate disagree on adjournment. So he'd need Cocaine Mitch to actively help and attempt to force an adjournment that differed from Chardonnay Nancy. The only other way it could happen is via budget deadlock, so again, he'd need the help of the Senate to make that work. I don't think either of those are happening in the near term. I know you detest Mitch McConnell, but let's concede Mitch ain't stupid enough to engineer a budget deadlock after the GOP debacle during the late '90s during Clinton's term.
#2 - Depends on your POV on any additional stimulus. I don't think the Dems will get the $3 trillion they want; nor do I think the GOP will stand still and do nothing. If, for some wacky reason dismissal of both branches of Congress happened, then any stimulus goes out the window. Understanding your POV, getting McConnell out would stop the federal judge assembly line he's successfully created. Other than that, the machinations of government would keep moving forward until budget time came around.
#3 - If the president tried to force Congress into recess, I suspect he'd get slammed with suits from both the Dems in the House and the GOP in the Senate. And Trump would lose in court, and quickly. Given that no president has tested this clause, I'd expect it would go in the most expedited path possible to SCOTUS, where he'd lose 9-0. That part is easy. Even if you believe the justices pretty much vote their belief set and bend the law to reflect their belief set, the conservatives will think "Do I want Crazy Joe Biden possibly having this power?", and the liberals will think "Give Crazy Donnie this power?" and the decision will be made in about 15 seconds, with poor sucker law clerks working 90-hour weeks finding appropriate law and writing up pretty responses.
My apologies to all posters for the green ooze coming out of your computer right now. I believe it's cynicism.
#1 - Not on his own, IMO. You'll hear some quoting part of Article 2, Section 3 about adjourning the two branches of Congress, but he could only do that if the House and Senate disagree on adjournment. So he'd need Cocaine Mitch to actively help and attempt to force an adjournment that differed from Chardonnay Nancy. The only other way it could happen is via budget deadlock, so again, he'd need the help of the Senate to make that work. I don't think either of those are happening in the near term. I know you detest Mitch McConnell, but let's concede Mitch ain't stupid enough to engineer a budget deadlock after the GOP debacle during the late '90s during Clinton's term.
#2 - Depends on your POV on any additional stimulus. I don't think the Dems will get the $3 trillion they want; nor do I think the GOP will stand still and do nothing. If, for some wacky reason dismissal of both branches of Congress happened, then any stimulus goes out the window. Understanding your POV, getting McConnell out would stop the federal judge assembly line he's successfully created. Other than that, the machinations of government would keep moving forward until budget time came around.
#3 - If the president tried to force Congress into recess, I suspect he'd get slammed with suits from both the Dems in the House and the GOP in the Senate. And Trump would lose in court, and quickly. Given that no president has tested this clause, I'd expect it would go in the most expedited path possible to SCOTUS, where he'd lose 9-0. That part is easy. Even if you believe the justices pretty much vote their belief set and bend the law to reflect their belief set, the conservatives will think "Do I want Crazy Joe Biden possibly having this power?", and the liberals will think "Give Crazy Donnie this power?" and the decision will be made in about 15 seconds, with poor sucker law clerks working 90-hour weeks finding appropriate law and writing up pretty responses.
My apologies to all posters for the green ooze coming out of your computer right now. I believe it's cynicism.
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