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Originally posted by Mithrandir View PostKen, to save you from bursting a vein, I will say once more, the million to 1 is simply a statement implying something is not likely to happen.
It sounds like what you are really saying is that you don't actually understand numbers even though you are arguing about statistics.
OK Mith, I'll ignore your numbers argument as we discuss stats. Carry on.
Originally posted by Mithrandir View PostIf you think there is up to a 10% chance Trump gets removed, then how much are you willing to bet that he indeed gets removed?
Originally posted by Mithrandir View PostSince I'm only a librarian I dont have big bucks to wager, so how about $50?
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Trump can do no wrong, evidently, as his numbers among republicans are solid. In span of 30 minutes Trump earlier today, about an hour ago, sent out these 7 tweets. Trump twitter feed is a stream of psychotic miasma where as outsiders, we should all share a sense of shame that this is who managed to game his way, by hook or crook as they say, into highest office.
"The Do Nothing Democrats are a disgrace! "
"The best Economy ever!"
"Witch Hunt!"
"The Real Deal!"
"AMERICA FIRST!"
“No president in American history has been treated like this.”
and final posting was of trumps head, perfectly coiffed full set of hair, atop i kid you not, Stallones body who is in full rocky 3 sweat and muscle glory.
I mean this is a source of national shame if we had a working, sane, and aware electorate. Daily we are treated to a display of narcissism, stupidity, and of course fealty to Putin and cruelty to all people of darker skin. On bright side, this is greatest motivator we have ever had to have a high voter turnout.
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Originally posted by gcstomp View PostTrump can do no wrong, evidently, as his numbers among republicans are solid. In span of 30 minutes Trump earlier today, about an hour ago, sent out these 7 tweets. Trump twitter feed is a stream of psychotic miasma where as outsiders, we should all share a sense of shame that this is who managed to game his way, by hook or crook as they say, into highest office.
"The Do Nothing Democrats are a disgrace! "
"The best Economy ever!"
"Witch Hunt!"
"The Real Deal!"
"AMERICA FIRST!"
“No president in American history has been treated like this.”
and final posting was of trumps head, perfectly coiffed full set of hair, atop i kid you not, Stallones body who is in full rocky 3 sweat and muscle glory.
I mean this is a source of national shame if we had a working, sane, and aware electorate. Daily we are treated to a display of narcissism, stupidity, and of course fealty to Putin and cruelty to all people of darker skin. On bright side, this is greatest motivator we have ever had to have a high voter turnout.
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Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostI agree completely. It will be a dark day in America if this man is reelected. The very idea depresses me. He and his vile, racist cronies (like Miller) need to go.
The Trump regime has justified:
- simply undoing everything the old president has done;
- governing for just half the country;
- bullying and name-calling;
- lying endlessly;
- finding dirt on rivals at any expense.
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Originally posted by revo View PostFurthermore, what if he is re-elected? It will completely give validation to this endless drama and division, and politics would have to evolve into this on both sides. Plus, if he does win, it's justification for another dopey one-sided GOPer to be the front-runner (Don Jr.? Ivanka? Graham? McCarthy?)
The Trump regime has justified:
- simply undoing everything the old president has done;
- governing for just half the country;
- bullying and name-calling;
- lying endlessly;
- finding dirt on rivals at any expense.
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Originally posted by revo View PostFurthermore, what if he is re-elected? It will completely give validation to this endless drama and division, and politics would have to evolve into this on both sides. Plus, if he does win, it's justification for another dopey one-sided GOPer to be the front-runner (Don Jr.? Ivanka? Graham? McCarthy?)
The Trump regime has justified:
- simply undoing everything the old president has done;
- governing for just half the country;
- bullying and name-calling;
- lying endlessly;
- finding dirt on rivals at any expense.
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Which begs the question--What is it exactly that makes Sanders a worse choice than Trump (because not voting against Trump is in essence, a vote for him this next election)
I know there's at least one Junkie who's stated Sanders is a no go.If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View PostWhich begs the question--What is it exactly that makes Sanders a worse choice than Trump (because not voting against Trump is in essence, a vote for him this next election)
I know there's at least one Junkie who's stated Sanders is a no go.
In contrast, Sanders represents a fundamental ideological shift in American politics. He is an entirely new political animal in the menagerie of American politicians with a real chance to be president. He represents a real and significant shift away from capitalism as the foundational economic principal of our country. It is a move toward much more government, to serve noble ends, to be sure, helping millions of people undeserved by our current system. But to many others, it represents a move away from choice and freedom, a move toward more control and distribution of resources from government, which many Americans do not trust and do not want.
Sanders=more government and more taxes to an extreme not seen in a long time, as the Dems have moved toward neoliberalism in recent decades. Some prefer a devil who will tax them less than an angel who will take a much bigger part of their paychecks and put in government control much more than is there currently. (Some might also point out the road to hell is paved with good intentions).
I can appreciate that argument, especially if it comes from anyone who has heard the noble promises in communist countries that end up being just oppression by another name, and one that holds back society as a whole more than capitalism. But Sanders is not a communist, and I do not think he would have the political capital to even enact the one socialist program I believe is a moral imperative--universal health care. Also, I'd vote for the resurrected zombie corpse of Marx himself over Trump.Last edited by Sour Masher; 12-09-2019, 07:08 PM.
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Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostSocialism and taxes. That's a short list, but a very important one for many. The argument a voter who dislikes Trump but would vote for him or at least not vote for Sanders would make is as follows: Trump represented a fundamental shift in the tone and tenor of politics in America. He is disgrace, to be sure, but stripped of all the vulgarity, the buffoonery, the grotesque spectacle, he is essential in line with GOP ideals, and much of what makes him appalling is just extreme versions of what we have seen before in terms of corruption, incompetence, and self-serving antics. While he packages himself as disruptive to the "deep state," he is not. He is just another cog in the machine, albeit the greasiest, slimiest one we have ever seen.
In contrast, Sanders represents a fundamental ideological shift in American politics. He is an entirely new political animal in the menagerie of American politicians with a real chance to be president. He represents a real and significant shift away from capitalism as the foundational economic principal of our country. It is a move toward much more government, to serve noble ends, to be sure, helping millions of people undeserved by our current system. But to many others, it represents a move away from choice and freedom, a move toward more control and distribution of resources from government, which many Americans do not trust and do not want.
Sanders=more government and more taxes to an extreme not seen in a long time, as the Dems have moved toward neoliberalism in recent decades. Some prefer a devil who will tax them less than an angel who will take a much bigger part of their paychecks and put in government control much more than is there currently. (Some might also point out the road to hell is paved with good intentions).
I can appreciate that argument, especially if it comes from anyone who has heard the noble promises in communist countries that end up being just oppression by another name, and one that holds back society as a whole more than capitalism. But Sanders is not a communist, and I do not think he would have the political capital to even enact the one socialist program I believe is a moral imperative--universal health care. Also, I'd vote for the resurrected zombie corpse of Marx himself over Trump.---------------------------------------------
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