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Originally posted by nots View PostNEarly every one of your blue team Senators voted to increase a physical border in 2008. The only reason they are against now is because it was the cornerstone of Trump’s platform.
It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
Here is Obama in 2014:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOjqWIWQ5-k
Funny part here is Schumer smiling wide to get this done -- NOW there is no way we can do this.
The honest truth here is that if there was anyone ANYONE other than Trump being President the Dems would make more concessions and this would get done. I want to be very clear here -
BOTH PARTIES have been playing kick the can on this issue for over 2 decades - see the date of the Clinton quote.
It is absolutely unacceptable that BOTH PARTIES have done this and just pointed at each other while it happened! Trump for all of his bluster and bullshit is trying to address something BOTH PARTIES have indicated need addressing. This has been Bi-Partisan Bullshit for more than 20 years - to allow a broken system to remain in place and we should be holding these idiots accountable for their inaction and that we are at the point we are at now.
If we are honestly saying "there is no emergency" now - but have had this topic mentioned during multiple State of the Union addresses and other Presidential Speeches for over 20 years - hmmmmmm maybe there is something going on that needs to be addressed.
The Partisanship of the masses grows more and more every day - such a great thing for the fundraisers of the parties.Last edited by baldgriff; 02-15-2019, 02:54 PM.It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra
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BREAKING: Federal prosecutors for Special Counsel Robert Mueller recommend an approximate jail sentence of 19-24 years in jail for Paul Manafort in the case being brought in the Eastern District of Virginia, according to court documents.
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If I am reading reports correctly, this will be the 59th emergency since the law was enacted. Not exactly virgin ground.
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JLast edited by onejayhawk; 02-16-2019, 12:55 AM.Ad Astra per Aspera
Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy
GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues
I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude
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Originally posted by Judge Jude View PostTom Winter
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BREAKING: Federal prosecutors for Special Counsel Robert Mueller recommend an approximate jail sentence of 19-24 years in jail for Paul Manafort in the case being brought in the Eastern District of Virginia, according to court documents.
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[Manafort turns age 70 on April Fool's Day, if you're scoring at home - or even if you aren't]
On the other side of things, Andrew McCabe, already under criminal investigation for a long list of lies, has a new book out.
JAd Astra per Aspera
Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy
GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues
I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostExactly. If Manafort is the big news at this late date, they're desperate.
On the other side of things, Andrew McCabe, already under criminal investigation for a long list of lies, has a new book out.
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostIf I am reading reports correctly, this will be the 59th emergency since the law was enacted. Not exactly virgin ground.
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Originally posted by revo View PostShow me ONE that spent $10Bn dollars. Or really, anything close to that. Do you even bother anymore, or do you just regurgitate the nonsense you hear on alt-right radio? The list of other national emergencies all pretty much dealt with blocking or prohibiting another country from doing transactions in the US, OR, were a legit national emergency like 9/11 or the influenza outbreak. Open your eyes, J. Your act is tiresome.
Open your eyes. This is easy stuff if you are not refusing to see.
JAd Astra per Aspera
Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy
GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues
I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostThe scale lends credence to the claim of emergency. Your comment, "The list of other national emergencies all pretty much dealt with blocking or prohibiting another country from doing transactions" is exactly the point, or did you miss that?
Open your eyes. This is easy stuff if you are not refusing to see.
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Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984
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Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View PostI disagree
How deep a hole do you want to dig?
JAd Astra per Aspera
Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy
GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues
I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostNoted. I'll add it to your account.
How deep a hole do you want to dig?
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Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostThe scale lends credence to the claim of emergency. Your comment, "The list of other national emergencies all pretty much dealt with blocking or prohibiting another country from doing transactions" is exactly the point, or did you miss that?
Open your eyes. This is easy stuff if you are not refusing to see.
J
Those prior emergency declarations were when the crisis reached emergency levels. Please show me, on this chart of Border Apprehensions, when the emergency occurred:
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I want more immigration to the US, not less"You know what's wrong with America? If I lovingly tongue a woman's nipple in a movie, it gets an "NC-17" rating, if I chop it off with a machete, it's an "R". That's what's wrong with America, man...."--Dennis Hopper
"One should judge a man mainly from his depravities. Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real." -- Klaus Kinski
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