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  • nots
    Journeyman
    • Jan 2011
    • 2907

    Originally posted by gcstomp
    Point is Trump feels facts put out by govt agencies is false, and he openly disregards them, over clearly wrong info. Such as what fact? Such as people crossing border illegally commit crimes at a lower rate. You could then draw unrelated conclusions, such as well then any crime they commit is adding to rate. The point is this isnt an emergency, as admitted by Trump, and he believes nonsense from Limbaugh and Fox over facts put out by government.
    NEarly every one of your blue team Senators voted to increase a physical border in 2008. The only reason they are against now is because it was the cornerstone of Trump’s platform.

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    • baldgriff
      All Star
      • Jan 2011
      • 7479

      Originally posted by nots
      NEarly every one of your blue team Senators voted to increase a physical border in 2008. The only reason they are against now is because it was the cornerstone of Trump’s platform.
      From my signature line:
      It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
      Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address


      Here is Obama in 2014:


      Funny part here is Schumer smiling wide to get this done -- NOW there is no way we can do this.

      The honest truth here is that if there was anyone ANYONE other than Trump being President the Dems would make more concessions and this would get done. I want to be very clear here -
      BOTH PARTIES have been playing kick the can on this issue for over 2 decades - see the date of the Clinton quote.

      It is absolutely unacceptable that BOTH PARTIES have done this and just pointed at each other while it happened! Trump for all of his bluster and bullshit is trying to address something BOTH PARTIES have indicated need addressing. This has been Bi-Partisan Bullshit for more than 20 years - to allow a broken system to remain in place and we should be holding these idiots accountable for their inaction and that we are at the point we are at now.

      If we are honestly saying "there is no emergency" now - but have had this topic mentioned during multiple State of the Union addresses and other Presidential Speeches for over 20 years - hmmmmmm maybe there is something going on that needs to be addressed.

      The Partisanship of the masses grows more and more every day - such a great thing for the fundraisers of the parties.
      Last edited by baldgriff; 02-15-2019, 02:54 PM.
      It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
      Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address


      "When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra

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      • Judge Jude
        MVP
        • Jan 2011
        • 11126

        Tom Winter
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        9m9 minutes ago

        BREAKING: Federal prosecutors for Special Counsel Robert Mueller recommend an approximate jail sentence of 19-24 years in jail for Paul Manafort in the case being brought in the Eastern District of Virginia, according to court documents.
        36 replies 178 retweets 272 likes

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        • onejayhawk
          All Star
          • Jan 2011
          • 9670

          If I am reading reports correctly, this will be the 59th emergency since the law was enacted. Not exactly virgin ground.

          Originally posted by heyelander
          Now that's Trump. But, he should be telling it past tense, on a golf course.

          J
          Last edited by onejayhawk; 02-16-2019, 12:55 AM.
          Ad Astra per Aspera

          Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

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          • onejayhawk
            All Star
            • Jan 2011
            • 9670

            Originally posted by Judge Jude
            Tom Winter
            ‏Verified account @Tom_Winter
            9m9 minutes ago

            BREAKING: Federal prosecutors for Special Counsel Robert Mueller recommend an approximate jail sentence of 19-24 years in jail for Paul Manafort in the case being brought in the Eastern District of Virginia, according to court documents.
            36 replies 178 retweets 272 likes

            ...............

            [Manafort turns age 70 on April Fool's Day, if you're scoring at home - or even if you aren't]
            Exactly. If Manafort is the big news at this late date, they're desperate.

            On the other side of things, Andrew McCabe, already under criminal investigation for a long list of lies, has a new book out.

            J
            Ad Astra per Aspera

            Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

            GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

            Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

            I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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            • The Feral Slasher
              MVP
              • Oct 2011
              • 13396

              Originally posted by onejayhawk
              Exactly. If Manafort is the big news at this late date, they're desperate.

              On the other side of things, Andrew McCabe, already under criminal investigation for a long list of lies, has a new book out.

              J
              I disagree
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              • revo
                Administrator
                • Jan 2011
                • 26127

                Originally posted by onejayhawk
                If I am reading reports correctly, this will be the 59th emergency since the law was enacted. Not exactly virgin ground.
                Show me ONE that spent $10Bn dollars. Or really, anything close to that. Do you even bother anymore, or do you just regurgitate the nonsense you hear on alt-right radio? The list of other national emergencies all pretty much dealt with blocking or prohibiting another country from doing transactions in the US, OR, were a legit national emergency like 9/11 or the influenza outbreak. Open your eyes, J. Your act is tiresome.

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                • onejayhawk
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 9670

                  Originally posted by revo
                  Show me ONE that spent $10Bn dollars. Or really, anything close to that. Do you even bother anymore, or do you just regurgitate the nonsense you hear on alt-right radio? The list of other national emergencies all pretty much dealt with blocking or prohibiting another country from doing transactions in the US, OR, were a legit national emergency like 9/11 or the influenza outbreak. Open your eyes, J. Your act is tiresome.
                  The scale lends credence to the claim of emergency. Your comment, "The list of other national emergencies all pretty much dealt with blocking or prohibiting another country from doing transactions" is exactly the point, or did you miss that?

                  Open your eyes. This is easy stuff if you are not refusing to see.

                  J
                  Ad Astra per Aspera

                  Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

                  GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

                  Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

                  I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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                  • The Feral Slasher
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 13396

                    Originally posted by onejayhawk
                    The scale lends credence to the claim of emergency. Your comment, "The list of other national emergencies all pretty much dealt with blocking or prohibiting another country from doing transactions" is exactly the point, or did you miss that?

                    Open your eyes. This is easy stuff if you are not refusing to see.

                    J
                    I disagree
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                    Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                    The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                    George Orwell, 1984

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                    • onejayhawk
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 9670

                      Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
                      I disagree
                      Noted. I'll add it to your account.

                      How deep a hole do you want to dig?

                      J
                      Ad Astra per Aspera

                      Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

                      GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

                      Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

                      I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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                      • The Feral Slasher
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 13396

                        Originally posted by onejayhawk
                        Noted. I'll add it to your account.

                        How deep a hole do you want to dig?

                        J
                        Deep, maybe beyond loam.
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                        Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                        The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                        George Orwell, 1984

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                        • revo
                          Administrator
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 26127

                          Originally posted by onejayhawk
                          The scale lends credence to the claim of emergency. Your comment, "The list of other national emergencies all pretty much dealt with blocking or prohibiting another country from doing transactions" is exactly the point, or did you miss that?

                          Open your eyes. This is easy stuff if you are not refusing to see.

                          J
                          Huh?

                          Those prior emergency declarations were when the crisis reached emergency levels. Please show me, on this chart of Border Apprehensions, when the emergency occurred:

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                          • Fresno Bob
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 5849

                            I want more immigration to the US, not less
                            "You know what's wrong with America? If I lovingly tongue a woman's nipple in a movie, it gets an "NC-17" rating, if I chop it off with a machete, it's an "R". That's what's wrong with America, man...."--Dennis Hopper

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                            • revo
                              Administrator
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 26127

                              Fabulously unqualified Heather Nauert mercifully withdraws herself from the UN Ambassadorship nomination.

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                              • revo
                                Administrator
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 26127

                                So awesome to have a president more concerned with Saturday Night Live than Russia:

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