President Donald Trump

[Sour Masher]

Okay, I know I'm beating a dead horse on this issue at this point, so this will probably be my last post on it, but I felt compelled to link to this story: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...D45?li=BBnb7Kz

Basically, it addresses Al Qaeda is using the raid in Yemen, along with Trump previous statements, his Muslim ban, and the rest, as a rallying cry and recruitment tool. A lot of these extremist groups have been on the ropes recently, as we've seemed to make real gains against IS and Al Qaeda. I hope having Trump in power doesn't result in those gains reversing by increasing their recruitment and/or support.

And speaking of dead horses, I was very disappointed to read that the USDA has abruptly removed all animal wellfare information from its site. That info has long been used by animal rights activists, and now it is gone. It is still too early to know for sure if this is a result of a Trump order, but it certainly would not surprise me: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/usd...dZX?li=BBnb7Kz

[Hornsby]

Okay, I know I'm beating a dead horse on this issue at this point, so this will probably be my last post on it, but I felt compelled to link to this story: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...D45?li=BBnb7Kz

Basically, it addresses Al Qaeda is using the raid in Yemen, along with Trump previous statements, his Muslim ban, and the rest, as a rallying cry and recruitment tool. A lot of these extremist groups have been on the ropes recently, as we've seemed to make real gains against IS and Al Qaeda. I hope having Trump in power doesn't result in those gains reversing by increasing their recruitment and/or support.

And speaking of dead horses, I was very disappointed to read that the USDA has abruptly removed all animal wellfare information from its site. That info has long been used by animal rights activists, and now it is gone. It is still too early to know for sure if this is a result of a Trump order, but it certainly would not surprise me: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/usd...dZX?li=BBnb7Kz

The EPA is also removing information regarding Climate change data and plans from the Obama administration. Because science is BAD!

On another note, thoughts and prayers to the victims of the Bowling Green Massacre...

[cardboardbox]

I'm disappointed, this is all you two could come up with since Thursday? Low energy...

[nots]

I'm disappointed, this is all you two could come up with since Thursday? Low energy...

I guess they couldn't find the link where the Aussie PM called the Trump call 'a civil conversation' and said he was not hung up on. Kind of disputes the Washington Post's account that was linked here.

[Hodor]

I guess they couldn't find the link where the Aussie PM called the Trump call 'a civil conversation' and said he was not hung up on. Kind of disputes the Washington Post's account that was linked here.

It's right next to the link where Ray Rice's wife says he never touched her.....

[nots]

It's right next to the link where Ray Rice's wife says he never touched her.....

So you think Turnbull is lying for what reason?

[Hodor]

So you think Turnbull is lying for what reason?

So now you believe politicians?

[nots]

So now you believe politicians?

Do you have a reason not to believe the PM of Australia--other than he's a politician?
As you can see from my post to you on Thursday, I too initially believed the Washington Post and criticized Trump's alleged tone. However, when Turnbull's account backs up Trump's and is in contrast to the Post's account, I think that's worth mentioning here.

[Hodor]

Do you have a reason not to believe the PM of Australia--other than he's a politician?
As you can see from my post to you on Thursday, I too initially believed the Washington Post and criticized Trump's alleged tone. However, when Turnbull's account backs up Trump's and is in contrast to the Post's account, I think that's worth mentioning here.

I think there's a number of reasons for both Trump and Turnbull to gloss over any possible tension between the two.

[Sour Masher]

I think there's a number of reasons for both Trump and Turnbull to gloss over any possible tension between the two.

Yes, and no benefit for Australia to make Trump look bad, especially since, despite how he stomped his feet and pouted, he seems like he is going to honor that agreement. Airing Trump's dirty laundry might give him just the nudge he needs to back out of the deal.

[nots]

I think there's a number of reasons for both Trump and Turnbull to gloss over any possible tension between the two.

Fair enough. And I think there are a number of reasons why the Washington Post would want to perpetuate an anti-Trump narrative. Since the Post account was cited here several times, I think presenting the participants account of the call is noteworthy and worth discussing.

[Hodor]

Fair enough. And I think there are a number of reasons why the Washington Post would want to perpetuate an anti-Trump narrative. Since the Post account was cited here several times, I don't think it's irrational to post the participants version of the call that refutes it.

I don't recall saying that it was irrational

[nots]

I don't recall saying that it was irrational

Yeah, that was a poor word choice by me. I will amend it.

[Sour Masher]

Trump is again attacking the judiciary branch of government on a personal level, but this time not as a candidate, but as POTUS. Disagreeing with the judge who put a retraining order on his ban isn't a surprise, nor is his implication that this Bush appointed judge isn't really a judge at all, because he dares to defy Trump. But it is still disheartening to see the executive branch try to discredit the judicial branch of government: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...2JP?li=BBnb7Kz

At least he didn't/couldn't discredit this judge based on ethnicity and heritage.

[Hornsby]

Fair enough. And I think there are a number of reasons why the Washington Post would want to perpetuate an anti-Trump narrative. Since the Post account was cited here several times, I think presenting the participants account of the call is noteworthy and worth discussing.

The Post and other mainstream newspapers don't need to try to skew an anti Trump narrative...Trump is doing that himself. All they need to do is to report the facts as they find them.