President Donald Trump

[Mithrandir]

Ha, that is true. I take back what I said about baldgriff and onejayhawk being the most personally maligned poster here. You take the gold medal in that regard, specifically/primarily with folks ribbing you about your anger of player cold spells.

Find the thread where I talked about letting my dogs crap in a 100 acre field surrounded by woods!!

[B-Fly]

I struggle to understand anyone who doesn't see the main tone of the last several years in the Sports Bar as toxic.

a handful of posters are comfortable with that tone, but I think the crowd has spoken in terms of exits.

if a crowd doesn't laugh at a comic's jokes, the problem isn't the audience - it's the jokes.

and if a crowd gives up on conversations, then the problem isn't the audience, either - no matter how much easier it is to assume so.

Maybe because I took a break from the site from 2013 until 2017 (due to shifting family and work obligations, not argument fatigue), I don't really see this. My memory is that there was just as much vituperative debate on politics and religion before 2013 as there is now, albeit with more overall participants and more silly non-political threads in the Sports Bar. So maybe it's the decline of other non-controversial topics in the Sports Bar (and perhaps we're all now less comfortable posting about hot women in the #metoo era and with so many of us now married and the fathers of daughters, lol). But there have always been a mix of tones and styles in the policy/politics/religion debates, with flamethrowers like Sharp Talons, Bob Kohm, and gwynninthehall causing offense and triggering defensiveness. But at the same time those flamethrowing posters sometimes moved the discussions and debates in interesting directions at times, and I learned a lot. Some of the religion debates/explorations back in the day were pretty epic.

[DMT]

Maybe because I took a break from the site from 2013 until 2017 (due to shifting family and work obligations, not argument fatigue), I don't really see this. My memory is that there was just as much vituperative debate on politics and religion before 2013 as there is now, albeit with more overall participants and more silly non-political threads in the Sports Bar. So maybe it's the decline of other non-controversial topics in the Sports Bar (and perhaps we're all now less comfortable posting about hot women in the #metoo era and with so many of us now married and the fathers of daughters, lol). But there have always been a mix of tones and styles in the policy/politics/religion debates, with flamethrowers like Sharp Talons, Bob Kohm, and gwynninthehall causing offense and triggering defensiveness. But at the same time those flamethrowing posters sometimes moved the discussions and debates in interesting directions at times, and I learned a lot. Some of the religion debates/explorations back in the day were pretty epic.

Agreed.

[[echo]]

@swampdragon...

-crickets-

[swampdragon]

Did you think Obama was racist?

No, I dont think Obama is racist.

[[echo]]

No, I dont think Obama is racist.

interesting

[B-Fly]

interesting

Not particularly, [echo]. Since Obama was half white and half black and grew up surrounded by Asians, which race do you think he was racist against?

[Mithrandir]

Not particularly, [echo]. Since Obama was half white and half black and grew up surrounded by Asians, which race do you think he was racist against?

I didn't think that there are that many Asians living in Kenya ?

[B-Fly]

I didn't think that there are that many Asians living in Kenya ?

LOL, you're joking, right? Hawaii has a lot of Asians; Indonesia even more.

[dslaw]

I didn't think that there are that many Asians living in Kenya ?

Mith has finally been unmasked. His real name is Alex Jones.

This did make me laugh.

[Teenwolf]

Did anybody see the idiotic and shameful comment (just everyday Trump, nothing special) about disabled athletes?

Speaking in front of an audience with Olympic and Paralympic athletes, Trump says "that was just incredible, and what happened with the Paralympics was so incredible and so inspiring to me. And I watched - it's a little tough to watch too much, but I watched as much as I could, it was really fantastic. Thank you."

What a disgusting boorish moron for a President.

[B-Fly]

Did anybody see the idiotic and shameful comment (just everyday Trump, nothing special) about disabled athletes?

Speaking in front of an audience with Olympic and Paralympic athletes, Trump says "that was just incredible, and what happened with the Paralympics was so incredible and so inspiring to me. And I watched - it's a little tough to watch too much, but I watched as much as I could, it was really fantastic. Thank you."

What a disgusting boorish moron for a President.

I guess this could be interpreted two ways. You seem to be reading it as him saying that seeing disabled people causes him a gut discomfort that makes it hard for him to keep watching. On the other hand, I would expect that for the President of the United States it is (should be?) difficult to carve out a lot of time for the pleasure of watching any sporting event or inspirational programming, because of all of the work demands of the office. So maybe this is a case where we're misreading the spirit/intent of his words and that's what he meant.

[DMT]

I guess this could be interpreted two ways. You seem to be reading it as him saying that seeing disabled people causes him a gut discomfort that makes it hard for him to keep watching. On the other hand, I would expect that for the President of the United States it is (should be?) difficult to carve out a lot of time for the pleasure of watching any sporting event or inspirational programming, because of all of the work demands of the office. So maybe this is a case where we're misreading the spirit/intent of his words and that's what he meant.

Perhaps, but he spends hours watching Fox & Friends daily so it's not like he hasn't carved out TV time in his daily routine.

[senorsheep]

You seem to be reading it as him saying that seeing disabled people causes him a gut discomfort that makes it hard for him to keep watching.

I think that's exactly what he meant. And I even kind of understand it. I'll be honest, it's tough for me to watch disabled people go about their business sometimes, because it's so heartbreaking to see them struggle with the simplest things I take for granted. If you're not around it on a regular basis, it can be jarring and uncomfortable. He certainly expressed that poorly, because Trump. While I wish he was a more elegant and empathetic speaker - and president, and person - I doubt it was his intent to insult paralympic athletes. Hopefully, the athletes will look at the entirety of his comments and recognize that he was trying to honor them, despite his insensitive off-the-cuff aside.

[Mithrandir]

So when is Trump going to make Health Care more affordable for us working stiffs?