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  • Originally posted by madducks View Post
    Looks like the storm clouds are gathering above Trump's head:
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/14/polit...hen/index.html
    "A manager for the porn star who was reportedly paid $130,000 by President Donald Trump's personal lawyer claims the agreement between the two is no longer valid.
    Gina Rodriguez, a manager for Stephanie Clifford, who is also known as Stormy Daniels, said Wednesday that Clifford believes Michael Cohen voided the non-disclosure agreement with her by admitting he paid Clifford $130,000.
    Rodriguez added: "Everything is off now, and Stormy is going to tell her story."
    And the left will be outraged, the Trump supporters won't care. MSNBC will report how different Republicans were in the late 90s with Bill compared to today with Trump and Fox "News" will report more about Hillary's emails and not talk about affairs at all.

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    • Originally posted by dslaw View Post
      And the left will be outraged, the Trump supporters won't care. MSNBC will report how different Republicans were in the late 90s with Bill compared to today with Trump and Fox "News" will report more about Hillary's emails and not talk about affairs at all.
      Your absolutely correct about this.

      The only difference I see in this is Trump was doing this before the election, (He maybe doing it now, too. However, we don't have any evidence of that.) and Clinton had Monica under his desk in the Oval Office. IMO, that is a big difference for some people. Not saying it's the right perspective, just saying that is how it is viewed.
      "Looks like I picked a bad day to give up sniffing glue.
      - Steven McCrosky (Lloyd Bridges) in Airplane

      i have epiphanies like that all the time. for example i was watching a basketball game today and realized pom poms are like a pair of tits. there's 2 of them. they're round. they shake. women play with them. thus instead of having two, cheerleaders have four boobs.
      - nullnor, speaking on immigration law in AZ.

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      • Originally posted by B-Fly View Post
        For anyone who wasn't bothered by or quickly got over the Access Hollywood tapes and the sexual harassment accusers, I doubt Ms. Daniels has anything to tell that will move the needle much on Trump support.
        Yup. It’s not like I’ve been under any illusion that he’d been some sort of matrimonial angel.
        I'm just here for the baseball.

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        • Originally posted by chancellor View Post
          Yup. It’s not like I’ve been under any illusion that he’d been some sort of matrimonial angel.
          Given the nature of Trump support and his own ego, the one way in which Stormy Daniels might be able to hurt him is by depicting him as sexually weak/submissive/pathetic/low energy.

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          • Mueller indicts 13 Russian nationals on meddling in the US election. But it's still a hoax, right Dumb Donald?

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            • this indictment should be mandatory reading for everyone ...



              It certainly feels that way. But I'm distrustful of that feeling and am curious about evidence.

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              • Originally posted by B-Fly View Post
                Given the nature of Trump support and his own ego, the one way in which Stormy Daniels might be able to hurt him is by depicting him as sexually weak/submissive/pathetic/low energy.
                Yep. But the funny thing is no one has said anything about him being sexually weak. Does he even drive a sports car?

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                • lol -- https://twitter.com/Zeddary/status/964562156044906496

                  <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just gonna drop this here <a href="https://t.co/uqjFbUmpAH">pic.twitter.com/uqjFbUmpAH</a></p>&mdash; Zeddy (@Zeddary) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zeddary/status/964562156044906496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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                  • So have we found the collusion part yet?
                    I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.

                    Ronald Reagan

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                    • Originally posted by Bernie Brewer View Post
                      So have we found the collusion part yet?
                      Collusion isn't a crime in and of itself. It has to be collusion or conspiracy to commit some other crime. And we'll know if Mueller believes he has found it when he's ready to tell us. That's how this works.

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                      • Originally posted by Bernie Brewer View Post
                        So have we found the collusion part yet?
                        Are you in a rush?

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                        • What was the Starr investigation - 5 years? I think Mueller is still less than that time frame.

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                          • Originally posted by dslaw View Post
                            What was the Starr investigation - 5 years? I think Mueller is still less than that time frame.
                            The Watergate investigation took two years as well.

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                            • Originally posted by revo View Post
                              Are you in a rush?
                              It sure seems like a lot of people are!
                              I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.

                              Ronald Reagan

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                              • Originally posted by B-Fly View Post
                                Collusion isn't a crime in and of itself. It has to be collusion or conspiracy to commit some other crime. And we'll know if Mueller believes he has found it when he's ready to tell us. That's how this works.
                                I was being sarcastic. Where’s that damn sarcasm emoji? But, I agree with what you wrote. Collusion in and of itself is not a crime at least not in this sense.

                                https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...llusion-215366

                                ‘Stop using “collusion” as a short-hand for criminality’
                                Paul Rosenzweig is former deputy assistant secretary for policy at the Department of Homeland Security and founder of Red Branch Consulting.

                                Collusion is not a federal crime (except in the unique case of antitrust law), so we should all just stop using “collusion” as a short-hand for criminality. But that doesn’t mean that the alleged cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russia is of no criminal interest. To the contrary, if true, it may have violated any number of criminal prohibitions.
                                And, no, to answer revo, I’m not in a rush. In fact, I think I said early on in this thread that we should all wait and see where this leads before simply jumping to our own conclusions that fit our persona politics comfortably. The news media isn’t investigating this, certainly not to the level of Mueller, but they have in many cases already passed judgment.
                                Last edited by Bernie Brewer; 02-16-2018, 10:27 PM.
                                I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.

                                Ronald Reagan

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