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"The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times
"For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden -
There are three basic scenarios possible here.
1. North Korea attacks us first and we go to war.
2. We attack North Korea first and we go to war.
3. We don't attack first, and neither does North Korea, so we don't go to war.
You are afraid of option 1, which will cost us lives and money, and lead to war, so you want to take option 2, which will cost us lives and money and lead to war. Option 3 is the only logical choice we have. It is the only choice that prevents war and suffering. It is extremely likely that if we don't attack them, they won't attack us. It is absurd to think that they would launch a nuclear missile toward us just for shits and giggles, unless you think the entire regime is hell bent on committing suicide. They are not developing nukes to attack us, they are developing nukes to prevent us from attacking them. This is not Hitler's Germany. There can be no Hitler's Germany in a world where multiple countries have nukes. No one is going to try to destroy or take over America, at least not with military might. If.when we get brought down, it will be through subtler means, like espionage, sabotage, cyber-warfare, etc, and North Korea is far down the threat list for stuff like that.
BTW, if you think that North Korea is willing to bring out nukes in a military conflict, then you must know he has them now and could use them on South Korea in a conflict. You are saying in attacking him now, "better they get nuked for certain now than us maybe getting nuked in the future."Last edited by Sour Masher; 10-12-2017, 01:00 PM.Comment
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"The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times
"For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe BidenComment
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I dont believe anyone is advocating dropping a nuke on NK or anyone for that matter.It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantraComment
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I know this wont happen, but if I were prez, I'd meet/call Obama, Bush, and both Clintons just to get their thoughts."The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times
"For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe BidenComment
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i never suggested you are anyone said that. Of course, we would not do that. We would be outcasts in the international community. Using nukes is a big taboo. But that would not stop N. Korea from using them on S. Korea if we force their hand. Cornered rat and all that.Comment
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"The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times
"For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe BidenComment
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It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantraComment
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I did not mean imply that, but perhaps I could have been clear. I meant that if we attack North Korea, and they know their end is inevitable, they may--and to be clear, that is the ONLY way I see them EVER using nukes--at that point, unleash nukes on South Korea. The "they" in my quotes referred to South Korea, not North Korea. Us attacking North Korea means we are okay with the strong possibility it will mean S. Korea gets nuked, rather than the very remote possibility we might get nuked in the future.Last edited by Sour Masher; 10-12-2017, 03:40 PM.Comment
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My apologies if I read that wrong.
I would like to find some type of diplomatic option here, but again what do we get out of the deal? Is not being the bully a big enough prize?It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantraComment
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We get not condemning thousands to die. We get not costing us trillions of dollars. We get not further destablizing any already unstable world, creating more enemies to attack us in the only way enemies can when they are flies and we are a bear--through terrorism and small attacks from rogue elements. That is our new enemy, not actual states. We should worry more about those attacks than nuclear strikes. They are a more real threat.Comment
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Mandy's no dummy.Originally posted by SteveI'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...Comment
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I'm glad Mandy saved the day. The world needs more Steve in it, not less! Every time I see your otter icon, it makes me smile.Originally posted by SteveComment
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