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politics is stupid. there's a real world out there besides our petty minds.
ps. hitler would've been elected anyways.
ps. hitler would've been elected anyways.
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this is how CNN looked at it:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Delicious.. <a href="https://t.co/IXX19DJo7K">pic.twitter.com/IXX19DJo7K</a></p>— Jim Levy (@TexasJew) <a href="https://twitter.com/TexasJew/status/877348096270716929">June 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>"The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times
"For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe BidenComment
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As you can imagine, this is a topic i've been following for a while and all I can say is, what's happening right now in the progressive movement is reflected here. Bernie supporters blame Clinton supporters and vice versa for the General loss, they won't budge from their platforms and even the top leaders are split. bernie has come out with a new wave of criticism toward the party and it's leadership and the party and it's leaders seem to see no need to do anything differently. Yes they made inroads in traditionally Red contests, but they should have won GA, the MT seat was decided before the body slam, but even after it happened, the Dem response was muddled.
As has been noted here, the Dems have many more seats up in the senate that the Reps 23-8 I believe. If the Progressives don't do something to come together before then, this could be their undoing. They HAVE to win back the majority in the senate to allow themselves some kind of leverage which means out of 31 races, they have to win 25, I'm pretty sure that get's them to 51 (nuclear option is our friend now). But it's going to be a struggle, as you've seen here, Lucky and I used to be good friends with similar takes on things, but over time have retreated to our corners and even though we've made multiple attempts to "bury the hatchet" it's not going to happen. We both epitomise what each of us think is wrong with the other's position and as I monitor boards for both centrist Dems and berniecrats, I can tell you--Our exchanges in here are mild compared to some of those folks.
Both sides are dug in, demanding the other side relent. Which is not going to happen.
And though it may be a defeat for the centrists and a victory for the Sandernistas ( which we can debate, I don't see it that clearly one way or another), it ultimately signals that as easy as it should be to regain the senate and make strides in the house in 2018, it won;t be as easy as it should be and might actually fail.
It's a difficult time to be a progressive right now because our battle is now on 2 fronts, and that's never an easy fight.If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King, Jr.Comment
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I typically don't care about stuff like this, but seriously, driving your golf cart on the green?!?!? IMPEACH NOW!!!!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">President Trump driving his golf cart all over the green is the most Trump thing ever <br><br>(via MikeNFrank/Twitter) <a href="https://t.co/UWuIcCIOnT">pic.twitter.com/UWuIcCIOnT</a></p>— Sports Illustrated (@SInow) <a href="https://twitter.com/SInow/status/877908744344129536">June 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>It certainly feels that way. But I'm distrustful of that feeling and am curious about evidence.Comment
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The Great Cheezus had some beauts last night in Iowa...said that he had a great crowd for something that wasn't a campaign rally. Except it was set up by his campaign people and BILLED as a campaign rally. Told the Iowans that he wouldn't let them get sucked into the wind energy trap because some days the wind just doesn't blow...apparently he's not familiar with the concept of storage batteries. Said that the "Wall" is now going to have solar panels on it, making it cheaper for the Mexicans to pay for it.
And today, he had to admit that he really doesn't have any tapes of the Comey conversations...like a crappy poker player being called on his bluff."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Your shitty future continues to offend me."
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I agree the Sanders/Clinton wings of the party do not like each other. At all. It's hard for me to really say how many of the Dems fall into either of these groups and how many are just Democrats and don't really care...but I do think it is a problem that isn't going to go away by ignoring it and just complaining about Donald Trump.---------------------------------------------
Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984
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If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. - Karl PopperComment
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It's my course, I can drive wherever I want! I even drove over that loser's ball!Comment
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Could we get Trump to play Al Czervik (Rodney Dangerfield) in a remake? Who would play Judge Smails (Ted Knight)? Chuck Schumer is the obvious pick, but Dick Durbin is more to type. I can't decide on Comey or Mueller to play Carl Spackler (Bill Murray). The real problem is Chevy Chase. There is no one remotely like Ty Webb in Washington.
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Oh. In that case, never mind.
- Wonderboy
GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues
I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge JudeComment
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If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
- Terence McKenna
Bullshit is everywhere. - George Carlin (& Jon Stewart)
How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel PaigeComment
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He plays to it too.
How is the Supreme Court's decision to take the travel ban case and release the stays in the interim sitting? It is being touted as a big win for the White House by the likes of CNN and CNBC.
JAd Astra per Aspera
Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy
GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues
I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge JudeComment
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