Jonathan Dwyer Arrested on Domestic Abuse Charges

[revo]

And was deactivated by the Cards......

[Papa Deuce]

from CSNPhilly.com

PHOENIX -- Arizona Cardinals running back Jonathan Dwyer was arrested Wednesday on aggravated assault charges in connection with two altercations at his home in July involving a woman and an 18-month-old child, the latest in a string of such cases involving NFL players.

The Cardinals said they became aware of the situation on Wednesday and are cooperating with the investigation. Dwyer has been deactivated from all team activities. The NFL said the case will be reviewed under the league's personal-conduct policy.

[madducks]

Each of these incidents is yet another nail in the coffin of Roger Goodell's NFL career. How long will it be before the owners man up and ask for his resignation? It's all about the dollars when it comes to the suits and the NFL TV sponsers are already starting to get nervous. Maybe the sponsers will have to ask for Goodell's resignation if the owners don't have the balls to do it.

[Pogues]

Each of these incidents is yet another nail in the coffin of Roger Goodell's NFL career. How long will it be before the owners man up and ask for his resignation? It's all about the dollars when it comes to the suits and the NFL TV sponsers are already starting to get nervous. Maybe the sponsers will have to ask for Goodell's resignation if the owners don't have the balls to do it.

That's not entirely fair, since Dwyer was just arrested today, and the Cardinals already acted. As much as I'm perturbed at Goddell right now, he's not psychic. It's not as if he would have known before the rest of us.

[chancellor]

That's not entirely fair, since Dwyer was just arrested today, and the Cardinals already acted. As much as I'm perturbed at Goddell right now, he's not psychic. It's not as if he would have known before the rest of us.

Agree completely. I mean, what else were the Cards or Goodell supposed to do here?

What surprises me most is that people are surprised NFL players appear to have a higher rate of domestic abuse.

[revo]

Dwyer was arrested today, but these events actually happened in July, so it's possible he could have known.

[madducks]

That's not entirely fair, since Dwyer was just arrested today, and the Cardinals already acted. As much as I'm perturbed at Goddell right now, he's not psychic. It's not as if he would have known before the rest of us.

Just like it's not always fair when a coach gets fired because his players underperformed. Like they say in the Godfather movies, "It's not personal, it's just business."

[Pogues]

Dwyer was arrested today, but these events actually happened in July, so it's possible he could have known.

Could he have known there was allegations? Sure. Did he know it would lead to an arrest? Silly me, I'm still a believer in innocent before proved guilty...and anyone can say someone did something. I would hope they'd at least wait for an arrest before doing anything, unless there is video evidence.

Just saying if Dwyer's arrest happened without any of the other crap that has happened these past few weeks, then so far the actions that have been taken by the NFL and the Cardinals are exactly what should be happening.

[Pogues]

Just like it's not always fair when a coach gets fired because his players underperformed. Like they say in the Godfather movies, "It's not personal, it's just business."

So you are saying the level of responsibility of Goodell of the illegal activities of players in the NFL is equivalent to the level of responsibility of a coach and his players' performance?

[madducks]

So you are saying the level of responsibility of Goodell of the illegal activities of players in the NFL is equivalent to the level of responsibility of a coach and his players' performance?

I'm saying that life isn't always fair. Sometimes unfair for the fired coach. Maybe unfair for the commissioner as far as the Dwyer incident goes. And that's a big maybe as Goodell has a history of ignoring evidence (Rice elevator video) to protect the NFL'$ reputation.

[Hornsby]

So you are saying the level of responsibility of Goodell of the illegal activities of players in the NFL is equivalent to the level of responsibility of a coach and his players' performance?

What I would say is that the buck stops here...whether or not Goodell is responsible, someone has to take the hit. And frankly, this guy is a PR disaster with all of the tone deaf reactions to the various horror stories occurring in the league this year. Most of this stuff happened months ago, and just now,the NFL is figuring it's a bad thing...yeah, bad for business, the most important thing to the league. When mega sponsors like Nike and Budweiser express "concern" over how things are being handled, someone has to pay the price. And that someone is the commissioner.

The best move the league made is to "find" this commissioners privilege clause that allows the clubs to essentially back away from the player, while allowing the player to be paid while he handles his troubles.

[Trautdiggity]

Agree completely. I mean, what else were the Cards or Goodell supposed to do here?

What surprises me most is that people are surprised NFL players appear to have a higher rate of domestic abuse.

So I am as disgusted as the next guy at the league and its current crisis but facts are facts and I read a really interesting analysis of nfl arrest rates from five thirty eight yesterday. Effectively the rates of ALL crimes amongst nfl players are lower than the average male in the 25-29 year old age group (a representative nfl player average age range). Relative to the national average, rates of domestic violence are the highest for nfl players but overall DUI is their worst collective crime. Where I think the analysis misses is that they should be comparing nfl players to a representative age group AND income level. There are many studies of the correlation between wealth and crime already and I would venture a guess that nfl player crime rates are worse than the average wealthy 25-29 year old male.

I'd encourage a read. Again no defending here I just think the narrative should be true.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-rate-of-domestic-violence-arrests-among-nfl-players/

[Papa Deuce]

Agree completely. I mean, what else were the Cards or Goodell supposed to do here?

What surprises me most is that people are surprised NFL players appear to have a higher rate of domestic abuse.

It wouldn't surprise me if that is true..... but is it? With about 1300 players, we have 4 cases of known domestic abuse. That sounds like even less than what I bet is the figure for the general public.

[Pogues]

What I would say is that the buck stops here...whether or not Goodell is responsible, someone has to take the hit. And frankly, this guy is a PR disaster with all of the tone deaf reactions to the various horror stories occurring in the league this year. Most of this stuff happened months ago, and just now,the NFL is figuring it's a bad thing...yeah, bad for business, the most important thing to the league. When mega sponsors like Nike and Budweiser express "concern" over how things are being handled, someone has to pay the price. And that someone is the commissioner.

The best move the league made is to "find" this commissioners privilege clause that allows the clubs to essentially back away from the player, while allowing the player to be paid while he handles his troubles.

I agree with what you are saying. I am just saying in the case of Dwyer, it's not another nail for Goodell. At some point the players and the teams need to take on some responsibility.

And that clause wasn't "found", as we are led to believe. Owens was put on this very type of leave from the team by the Eagles some years ago, because they just got sick of him. NFL teams are now realizing that in today's environment (ie. shitstorm) it's a course of action to appease sponsors and public scrutiny.

[revo]

Dwyer headbutted his wife and broke her nose when she refused sex. Someone who heard the incident unfold called police. He threatened to kill himself and their child if she told police about the assault.

The next day, in a separate incident, he punched her in the face. He also punched walls and threw a shoe at their 17 month old, who was not hit.

Wow.

Considering Dwyer is nothing more than a fill-in piece, exactly why is he still a Cardinal?