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**Erik** · 02-11-2013, 10:06 AM

People are waiting real long on QBs -- other than the guy who took Kaepernick before every QB except Rodgers. That pick aside, this is not surprising in 1-QB leagues, particularly in the 4 point pass TD format, given how many quality options there are.

**griswold** · 02-11-2013, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by Erik View Post

People are waiting real long on QBs -- other than the guy who took Kaepernick before every QB except Rodgers. That pick aside, this is not surprising in 1-QB leagues, given how many quality options there are.

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I have rarely seen people wait that long on QB's....this has always made sense to me but you'd always see someone grabbed Rodgers, Brady and Brees in the 1st or 2nd round.

But when I saw the guy draft Kaepernick before Brees and Brady, I jaw dropped.

I like Kaepernick as much as the next guy but seriously?

If you folks want, I'll continue to post updates and if/when I get involved in more Draftmasters, I'll post those as well.

I figure it's good conversation during the offseason for us football freaks.

**griswold** · 02-11-2013, 10:12 AM

Are you guys also surprised by Rice dropping to #7 ???

I was shocked to be able to draft him that low.

I know that Pierce was getting occasional carries, but not enough to drop him that low.

**Erik** · 02-11-2013, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by griswold View Post

Are you guys also surprised by Rice dropping to #7 ???

I was shocked to be able to draft him that low.

I know that Pierce was getting occasional carries, but not enough to drop him that low.

He does seem to be falling out of favor with some folks. I suspect it's a combination of mileage, playoff fumbles, and an increase in Pierce's role. I would take him well before 7th in PPR, though.

And yes, please keep us updated.

**griswold** · 02-11-2013, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by Erik View Post

He does seem to be falling out of favor with some folks. I suspect it's a combination of mileage, playoff fumbles, and an increase in Pierce's role. I would take him well before 7th in PPR, though.

And yes, please keep us updated.

Yeah, that's interesting on Rice. I saw in another Draftmaster's draft that Rice went 4th, so maybe it was just these drafters who were down on him.

I'll keep updating as the draft moves on.

Thanks!

**Hornsby** · 02-11-2013, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by griswold View Post

Are you guys also surprised by Rice dropping to #7 ???

I was shocked to be able to draft him that low.

I know that Pierce was getting occasional carries, but not enough to drop him that low.

Not really, he's getting some mileage on him, and Pierce is going to get more than the occasional carry, based on what we saw last season.

I would have taken either Richardson or Charles before him in this format...people don't realize just how banged up Richardson was last season. And both guys have new coaches who are very offensive minded.

I'm not surprised to see Kapernick picked that high either...people think he's going to run for 75 yards and a TD every game. Not going to happen, but I think that those are the expectations.

**revo** · 02-11-2013, 10:44 AM

- Spiller at 4 is the highest I've seen for him
- Richardson at 8 is really dependent on his production level improving, as he was just not that good last season
- Chris Johnson at 14? Yecchh.
- Randall Cobb at 29, even with Jennings gone, seems high

I'm not surprised at all about the QBs. There are more top shelf QBs in the NFL now than perhaps ever before. This past season saw the addition of no less than FOUR fantasy starting QBs (RGIII, Kaepernick, Luck, Wilson), creating a situation where the starting QB pool is now about 16-18 deep and the elite fantasy QBs are about 10 deep. Any "expert" worth his weight shouldn't touch a QB before round 3.

**griswold** · 02-11-2013, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by Hornsby View Post

Not really, he's getting some mileage on him, and Pierce is going to get more than the occasional carry, based on what we saw last season.

I would have taken either Richardson or Charles before him in this format...people don't realize just how banged up Richardson was last season. And both guys have new coaches who are very offensive minded.

I'm not surprised to see Kapernick picked that high either...people think he's going to run for 75 yards and a TD every game. Not going to happen, but I think that those are the expectations.

With no other weapons on their team, I'm staying away from drafting Richardson and Charles that high as I believe teams will really focus on stopping them.

I agree with you on Kaepernick.

**griswold** · 02-11-2013, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by revo View Post

- Spiller at 4 is the highest I've seen for him
- Richardson at 8 is really dependent on his production level improving, as he was just not that good last season
- Chris Johnson at 14? Yecchh.
- Randall Cobb at 29, even with Jennings gone, seems high

I'm not surprised at all about the QBs. There are more top shelf QBs in the NFL now than perhaps ever before. This past season saw the addition of no less than FOUR fantasy starting QBs (RGIII, Kaepernick, Luck, Wilson), creating a situation where the starting QB pool is now about 16-18 deep and the elite fantasy QBs are about 10 deep. Any "expert" worth his weight shouldn't touch a QB before round 3.

Thanks Revo....I agree with your thoughts on QB's for this upcoming season....but there has always been those crazy "experts" who jump on a top QB in the past so I was surprised to see everyone wait.

**griswold** · 02-11-2013, 05:57 PM

I posted the next update....I grabbed Jason Witten for the PPR gold that he is.

**Hammer** · 02-11-2013, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by griswold View Post

With no other weapons on their team, I'm staying away from drafting Richardson and Charles that high as I believe teams will really focus on stopping them.

I agree with you on Kaepernick.

Both have produced without weapons before. Why would they stop producing all of a sudden?

**griswold** · 02-11-2013, 08:32 PM

Yeah but richardson got beat up and toughed it out this season.

And Dwayne Bowe will be gone from KC leaving with nothing but Charles.

**Hornsby** · 02-11-2013, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by griswold View Post

Yeah but richardson got beat up and toughed it out this season.

And Dwayne Bowe will be gone from KC leaving with nothing but Charles.

Richardson came into the season injured and continued to get hurt throughout the year, yet toughed it out and finished with decent numbers. With a full off-season to get healthy, and a new staff that's full of offensive minded guys, I think that he's going to be a force next year. People forget that Cleveland has a damn good offensive line as well.

New coaching as well in KC, the same people who figured out how to get the absolute max out of Shady McCoy...most likely a new QB as well.

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