The Better Manning if Eli Wins Sunday

[In the Corn]

Lots of talk radio discussion surrounding Eli being the better QB of the two Manning brothers if he should win his second Super Bowl on Sunday. I think this is ridiculous talk.

While Eli will have two rings, I don't think his body of work, at this point shows him to be better than Peyton. The rationale of having more Super Bowl rings than someone else seems to me extremely flawed. If we went that route, would Terry Bradshaw be the greatest QB of all-time?

To expand that to other positions, would Jack Lambert be the greatest middle linebacker, although many say Ray Lewis is the greatest.

Now, I am a Steelers homer and would never place Bradshaw as the greatest QB of all-time, top 10, yes, but it seems to be irrational to place someone better solely based on the rings on their fingers.

[B-Fly]

Yeah, getting a second ring would not yet be enough to move Eli's overall resume past his brother's, but he's certainly been closing the gap this year and another ring would close it even further.

[ironfist]

Yeah, so right now Peyton Manning is tied with Trent Dilfer in the "greatness" category?

not to mention that Dan Marino guy really sucks

[chancellor]

Yeah, so right now Peyton Manning is tied with Trent Dilfer in the "greatness" category?

Yeah, exactly. I'm baffled by this whole Peyton vs. Eli "greatness" thing. Eli's a better QB than Peyton right now solely because he has a healthy neck. But in terms of a career, don't make me laugh. Eli's barely worthy to carry his brother's shoes by that metric.

[Hammer]

Eli is better than Rivers though, eh?

[Erik]

Eli is better than Rivers though, eh?

This season, he most definitely was.

[revo]

As a Giants/Eli fan, I agree that's it's crazy to think Eli is better than Peyton. Has Eli elevated himself into that top 5 elite class? I think even that's debatable, but he's clearly knocking on that door.

I also don't agree with the many analysts who are now chirping that Eli is a "lock for the Hall of Fame." Let's have that discussion after 5 more years.

What's amazing is that he's just 31 years old and arguably can play at a top level for another 7 or 8 years, so if the G-Men are ever lucky enough to win another championship, I'm not sure where that puts Eli in the all-time class, but I'd guess it would have to be pretty high.

[B-Fly]

Are Bobby and Brett Hull currently the only immediate family members in the big four sports to both have been inducted to their sport's Hall of Fame?

[OaklandA's]

Are Bobby and Brett Hull currently the only immediate family members in the big four sports to both have been inducted to their sport's Hall of Fame?

You need to get back into Vintage Drafting! Lloyd and Paul Waner are both in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

[B-Fly]

You need to get back into Vintage Drafting! Lloyd and Paul Waner are both in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Ah, yes. Forgot about the Waners.

[heyelander]

Eli is better than Rivers though, eh?

But neither is as good as Brees.

[heyelander]

You need to get back into Vintage Drafting! Lloyd and Paul Waner are both in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

he was trying not to waste his W that early in the draft.

[Hammer]

But neither is as good as Brees.

who isnt as good as Rodgers......

[In the Corn]

I chuckle that whichever QB wins the Super Bowl instantly is considered the best QB in the league.

This year, Eli
Last year, Aaron Rodgers
Before that, Drew Brees
etc., etc.

QB's on par or better than Eli currently:

- Aaron Rodgers
- Drew Brees
- Ben Roethlesberger
- Philip Rivers
- Tom Brady
- Peyton Manning (if he's able to come back)

Does Cam Newton deserve to be there? Look at what he did this year, possibly.

I'm not saying Eli hasn't come into his own, or that he's not a top five QB, but let's have some perspective.

Side note: If two Super Bowl rings gets you into the HoF, is Big Ben a lock?

[Erik]

I think Stafford belongs on that list.