Week 8 Discussion Thread

[Moonlight J]

I think I'm starting Donald Brown over Chris Johnson next week

[Judge Jude]

Record of 1st 7 Giants opponents so far, not counting their game against the Giants: 10-25
Record of Giants' last 9 opponents, entering today: 37-20

(Giants opponents so far are 12-30 if you prefer to count the Giants game, too)

[revo]

Victor Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz!!

[Moonlight J]

Record of 1st 7 Giants opponents so far, not counting their game against the Giants: 10-25
Record of Giants' last 9 opponents, entering today: 37-20

(Giants opponents so far are 12-29 plus today if you prefer to count the Giants game, too)

So I should be trading Eli....

[Judge Jude]

Well, some Giants opponents like the Patriots and Packers are great, but can be thrown on.

The Eagles are the only team the Giants have left that entered today with a losing record...

[revo]

So I should be trading Eli....

The Giants don't face a tough pass defense until Wk 14. He's probably never had a higher value though, and if you could parlay him into some good chips, I might deal him.

And don't forget, if you think those teams are better than the Giants, then they're going to be behind and will need to throw often....

[revo]

Cam Newton is on pace for 4600 yards passing with 650 yards rushing. Unreal.

[Judge Jude]

including all early games
* means they haven't played or finished yet this week

AFC
Patriots 5-1*, Bills 4-2*, Jets 4-3, Dolphins 0-7
Steelers 5-2*, Ravens 5-2, Bengals 4-2*, Browns 3-3*
Texans 5-3, Titans 4-3, Jaguars 2-6, Colts 0-8
Chargers 4-2*, Raiders 4-3, Chiefs 3-3*, Broncos 2-4*

NFC
Giants 5-2, Cowboys 3-3*, Redskins 3-3*, Eagles 2-4*
Packers 7-0, Lions 5-2, Bears 4-3, Vikings 2-6
Saints 5-3, Falcons 4-3, Buccaneers 4-3, Panthers 2-6
49ers 5-1*, Seahawks 2-4*, Cardinals 1-6, Rams 1-6

SUCK FOR LUCK
Colts 0-8
Dolphins 0-7
Rams 1-6
Cardinals 1-6
Jaguars 2-6
Vikings 2-6
Panthers 2-6
Seahawks 2-4*
Broncos 2-4*

[Moonlight J]

Fantastic Detroit....fantastic

[revo]

So Tim Tebow has now completed just 40% of his passes this season, this after completing just 50% last season. In a league where Aaron Rodgers is completing passes at a 70% clip, and guys like Eli Manning are checking in at 65%, how on earth do the Broncos think they can win with a QB averaging a 45% rate over his career? If his name wasn't Tim Tebow, he would've been tossed to the curb already.

As I said earlier this season, the Broncos may be better off turning Tebow into a fullback/tight end hybrid and use his athleticism that way. I can't imagine the Broncos, with HOF quarterback John Elway running the team, will be able to stand a QB with such a horrendous completion % and YPA.

[Moonlight J]

Lions having fun with him.

He's f'n terrible

[Judge Jude]

They have this dreadful Redskins-Bills game on in these parts.

It's obvious that Shanahan got it exactly wrong - he started the season with Santana Moss healthy, Hightower/Torain/Helu at RB, the hope that Cooley would be healthy, a strong offensive line, and a tough defense.

So what QB would you use with that crew? Beck - you just need to have a guy avoid making big mistakes, and they can win. Grossman was shaky, but they got to 3-1 anyway. Then Grossman has an awful game, and they shifted to Beck last week - now that they have a decimated offensive line, Cooley and Hightower are done for the season, and Moss is out 6-8 weeks.

Their only hope now would be with Grossman, since Beck predictably can't be a caretaker QB with so few weapons.

I guess they were doomed anyway, with all the injuries, but Shanahan has not impressed, really.

20-0, Bills. Now that the horses have all left the barn, I wonder if he goes to Grossman 10-12 minutes too late.

[revo]

that commercial where the guy says "You invited Eric? I thought Eric gave you the creeps" cracks me up every time.

[Moonlight J]

They have this dreadful Redskins-Bills game on in these parts.

It's obvious that Shanahan got it exactly wrong - he started the season with Santana Moss healthy, Hightower/Torain/Helu at RB, the hope that Cooley would be healthy, a strong offensive line, and a tough defense.

So what QB would you use with that crew? Beck - you just need to have a guy avoid making big mistakes, and they can win. Grossman was shaky, but they got to 3-1 anyway. Then Grossman has an awful game, and they shifted to Beck last week - now that they have a decimated offensive line, Cooley and Hightower are done for the season, and Moss is out 6-8 weeks.

Their only hope now would be with Grossman, since Beck predictably can't be a caretaker QB with so few weapons.

I guess they were doomed anyway, with all the injuries, but Shanahan has not impressed, really.

20-0, Bills. Now that the horses have all left the barn, I wonder if he goes to Grossman 10-12 minutes too late.

Their depth sucks due to all of those draft picks they've thrown away in recent years

[Judge Jude]

The Redskins do seem to have a growing number of good young defensive pieces, but they've wasted the Cooley and Moss (and Portis) primes on offense. Someone on Twitter just compared the Spurrier and Shanahan regimes. Interesting.