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Originally posted by Bene Futuis View PostEdit 2: And also we are clearly arguing "best player" and not "best athlete" because neither Ruth nor Brady even comes close to the latter, lol. That would be Jim Thorpe? Michael Phelps? Simone Biles? Bo Jackson? Babe Didrickson? Joyner-Kersee?
Edit 3: I think I mistook what you were saying - obviously Brady hasn't been playing in a segregated league. Still, if we're going to base things on limited competition we're probably going to have to pick some goddamn soccer player as our #1 since they play a bunch internationally.
Plus, this is an American-centric discussion, as I'm sure any non-American would toss out all of our candidates from jump in favor of Pele and others, lol.
Seems pretty arbitrary to just dismiss every baseball player out of hand who played before, what, the 1960s? 70s? 1947?
I also would probably look at the big four sports like this in terms of 'greats being able to dominate and win titles,' from easiest to hardest:
1 - NBA - no question it's definitely the 'easiest' for greats to dominate and win. MJ, LeBron, Wilt, Russell, Magic, Kareem, etc. One all-time great surrounded with a solid cast equal multiple titles.
2 - NHL - if a "hot goalie" can power a team to a title, that takes a little off the top. But absolutely, all-time greats can lead teams to multiple titles (Gretzky, Lemieux, etc.) with a solid surrounding cast.
3 - NFL - it typically takes multiple "all-time greats" for an NFL team to dominate across multiple years. Joe Montana had Jerry Rice & Ronnie Lott, Aikman had Emmitt & Irvin, Bradshaw had Harris, Swann and an all-time great D, etc. Brady had a great coach, but his title in TB proved it wasn't all just Belichick.
4 - MLB - It really doesn't seem to matter at all any longer in baseball if you're an all-time great or not.
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Originally posted by Bene Futuis View PostEasily the best baseball player (as well as the best baseball hitter) - again, not even close. And if we're punishing him for merely being miles better than his competition (a larger gap than any professional athlete in history, imo) based on the limits of his competition, then shouldn't we punish Brady for not actually playing against Latinos or Asians, too? Seems pretty arbitrary to just dismiss every baseball player out of hand who played before, what, the 1960s? 70s? 1947?.I'm just here for the baseball.
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Joe Montana is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all-time. Tom Brady has basically doubled Montana's achievements. I feel sorry for the writer who leaves Brady off of their HOF ballot just to prove a point. They will be hunted down by an angry mob lol.
Super Bowl Wins: Brady 7, Montana 4
Touchdowns: Brady 624, Montana 273
Passing Yards: Brady 84,520, Montana 40,551
Completions: Brady 7,263, Montana 3,409“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by madducks View PostJoe Montana is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all-time. Tom Brady has basically doubled Montana's achievements. I feel sorry for the writer who leaves Brady off of their HOF ballot just to prove a point. They will be hunted down by an angry mob lol.
Super Bowl Wins: Brady 7, Montana 4
Touchdowns: Brady 624, Montana 273
Passing Yards: Brady 84,520, Montana 40,551
Completions: Brady 7,263, Montana 3,409
EDIT: now watch him lead the Bucs to a comeback win---------------------------------------------
Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports that Tom Brady does plan to retire and says the pushback is based on the timing of the news rather than the validity.“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Gregg View PostThat is too bad. I would have liked him to go another year.
Betty didn't make me quit.
Best Regards,
George Blanda---------------------------------------------
Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984
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Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View PostI remember getting a George Blanda football card and being amazed that a grandpa could still play in the NFL
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