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*** VD 15 Commentary Thread ***
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Originally posted by heyelander View PostI'm okay with "My pick was great" Less so with... "I had a much better pick for you than you did"
** giving you a hard time Adam. Hopefully you can take it as well as you dish it!Last edited by Ken; 06-09-2020, 01:06 PM.
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Originally posted by cavebird View PostNow with the extra QUIZ, I wonder when the next QUIZY guys will go. Usually, there is a break between the first seven and the rest. I wonder what happens now.If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
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Originally posted by Ken View PostThe funny thing about it is when they are just flat out wrong though. Based on my valuations, there are 183 pitcher-years between Quisenberry and the "mystery" player. Funny to see someone call out a bad pick when in reality they are off so much in their own valuations. I just laugh it off as the misplaced bravado that it is.
** giving you a hard time Adam. Hopefully you can take it as well as you dish it!
And I don't doubt there is a huge number of pitchers between Quisenberry and the mystery pitcher (maybe we can keep coming up with silly names for him and make that a thing this commentary thread)--hell, I may have overdrafted him. I also don't doubt that many disagree with my theory---people keep drafting Quis/Izzy/and Ugi early, after all. But that's the question with any pick--is taking this guy better than the guy I would get later at a similar letter/franchise (decade last draft) more than any other guy I could take right now. My theory is that the QUIZ players (not QUIZY---the top Y's are just much better and they go earlier) just aren't good enough over a blank that you would get at the end than other players you could get early are over the guys you could get at a similar letter and franchise (or decade last draft) later. Not sure. Don't think there is a way to objectively prove it because you would have to know what will be left at the end, which you can't early on.
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Originally posted by cavebird View PostNo problems or hard feelings whatsoever---any delay in my replies is because of doing interviews at work on and off all day. (Yes, I have the silly work from home attire of gym shorts and a nice shirt on.)
And I don't doubt there is a huge number of pitchers between Quisenberry and the mystery pitcher (maybe we can keep coming up with silly names for him and make that a thing this commentary thread)--hell, I may have overdrafted him. I also don't doubt that many disagree with my theory---people keep drafting Quis/Izzy/and Ugi early, after all. But that's the question with any pick--is taking this guy better than the guy I would get later at a similar letter/franchise (decade last draft) more than any other guy I could take right now. My theory is that the QUIZ players (not QUIZY---the top Y's are just much better and they go earlier) just aren't good enough over a blank that you would get at the end than other players you could get early are over the guys you could get at a similar letter and franchise (or decade last draft) later. Not sure. Don't think there is a way to objectively prove it because you would have to know what will be left at the end, which you can't early on.
But I would say that yes, you can objectively measure this if you take into account some assumptions which are "close".
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