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  • heyelander
    MVP
    • Jan 2011
    • 10398

    thanks much all...

    pick soon... I'll stop googling 1994 Wilmington bluerocks...
    I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...

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    • Kevin Seitzer
      All Star
      • Jan 2011
      • 9175

      Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
      I am guessing he can run like 2 million outcomes and see how many each team will win. Damn us techno incompetents.
      No, I'm not doing anything sophisticated that anyone in this draft couldn't do.

      I simply take the decades that everyone has remaining and fill in players from my rankings, snaking through the draft order until the spreadsheet is full. I'm not looking for team fits or position matches or anything like that--just whether the team has an opening in that decade. Then I go back and move catchers around so that everyone has exactly two catchers. (I don't pay any attention whatsoever to other positions.)

      Then as the draft proceeds, I move players around as they are drafted. For example, Heye just picked Phil Niekro. I had Niekro assigned to a different team. So I take the 1960's pitcher that I had given to Heye and swap him out for Niekro on the other team. Occasionally I will try to optimize an opposing team by trying different players, but I spend less time on that than you might think.

      That's all I do. It works surprisingly well for how unsophisticated it is. By this point in the draft I can get an idea of where most teams will finish within +/- 5 points or so.
      "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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      • revo
        Administrator
        • Jan 2011
        • 26127

        Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer
        No, I'm not doing anything sophisticated that anyone in this draft couldn't do.

        I simply take the decades that everyone has remaining and fill in players from my rankings, snaking through the draft order until the spreadsheet is full. I'm not looking for team fits or position matches or anything like that--just whether the team has an opening in that decade. Then I go back and move catchers around so that everyone has exactly two catchers. (I don't pay any attention whatsoever to other positions.)

        Then as the draft proceeds, I move players around as they are drafted. For example, Heye just picked Phil Niekro. I had Niekro assigned to a different team. So I take the 1960's pitcher that I had given to Heye and swap him out for Niekro on the other team. Occasionally I will try to optimize an opposing team by trying different players, but I spend less time on that than you might think.

        That's all I do. It works surprisingly well for how unsophisticated it is. By this point in the draft I can get an idea of where most teams will finish within +/- 5 points or so.
        That's exactly what I do, except rather than snaking I just do one random team at a clip. And I usually start it with 7-8 rounds to go.

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        • Kevin Seitzer
          All Star
          • Jan 2011
          • 9175

          A fun little piece of draft trivia:
          Last round with Bene's pick of Vida Blue at Pick 15.05, we reached hitter-pitcher parity for the first time in this draft, with 82 hitters and 82 pitchers remaining to be drafted (and 113 hitters and 74 pitchers selected).
          "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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          • heyelander
            MVP
            • Jan 2011
            • 10398

            I think it's time for me to start panicking. Glassdoor just sent me a notification that they found a great job for me. I open it, and its as a cashier at Panera...
            Last edited by heyelander; 01-31-2019, 06:29 PM.
            I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...

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            • Ken
              Administrator
              • Feb 2016
              • 10977

              Originally posted by TS Garp
              How long has RJ been around? I remember the Byron Cox days, the CoxCombs and all that. Trying to remember who posted the most back then. Trader Mac -- is he still on here under a different name?
              I was over at Byron's house last weekend. He said RJ started in 1997 actually. He and a friend at work started the site just as an opportunity to learn HTML.

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              • Kevin Seitzer
                All Star
                • Jan 2011
                • 9175

                Originally posted by Ken
                I was over at Byron's house last weekend. He said RJ started in 1997 actually. He and a friend at work started the site just as an opportunity to learn HTML.
                Byron and Long John? Or am I remembering that completely wrong?
                "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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                • Kevin Seitzer
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 9175

                  I don't think Trader Mac has been around since he went to China, though I may be wrong about that. I don't know all the aliases. I've never figured out who Mandy is, though I gather now that it's someone in this vintage draft.
                  "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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                  • Kevin Seitzer
                    All Star
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 9175

                    In fact, Controller Scott Nascarfan Slider Thompson would be my prime suspect.
                    "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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                    • heyelander
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 10398

                      Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer
                      I don't think Trader Mac has been around since he went to China, though I may be wrong about that. I don't know all the aliases. I've never figured out who Mandy is, though I gather now that it's someone in this vintage draft.
                      I had a thought that Mandy was you for a bit... so it's not you, and by this post it's not me...
                      I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...

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                      • TS Garp
                        Welcome to the Big Leagues, Kid
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1630

                        Originally posted by Ken
                        I was over at Byron's house last weekend. He said RJ started in 1997 actually. He and a friend at work started the site just as an opportunity to learn HTML.
                        RC Cook?

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                        • Kevin Seitzer
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 9175

                          Originally posted by heyelander
                          I think it's time for me to start panicking. Glassdoor just sent me a notification that they found a great job for me. I open it, and its as a cashier at Panera...
                          If you pronounce it cash-ee-AY, it sounds a lot fancier.
                          "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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                          • Kevin Seitzer
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 9175

                            Originally posted by TS Garp
                            RC Cook?
                            Oh yeah. I think you're right. Of course Ken can verify.
                            "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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                            • Kevin Seitzer
                              All Star
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 9175

                              Originally posted by heyelander
                              I had a thought that Mandy was you for a bit... so it's not you, and by this post it's not me...
                              I don't think anyone in this draft would be incapable, although I think El D was gone whilst Mandy was still active, so I doubt it's him.
                              "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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                              • TS Garp
                                Welcome to the Big Leagues, Kid
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1630

                                Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer
                                I don't think anyone in this draft would be incapable, although I think El D was gone whilst Mandy was still active, so I doubt it's him.
                                I don't spend a lot of time on RJ outside of these drafts, but from what I've seen, I assumed it was Fresno Bob?

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