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  • revo
    Administrator
    • Jan 2011
    • 26128

    The gaming computer I bought last week for $599 is now being sold for $528, so I call Amazon and they say “sorry, we don’t price match” and then they tell me to simply buy it again and send the first one back. I said I wanted to avoid that hassle for both of us, but they told me to do it (which I did). Pain in the ass, but $71 is $71!

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    • The Feral Slasher
      MVP
      • Oct 2011
      • 13397

      Originally posted by Bene Futuis
      That's just an add on (it's call downloadable content or "DLC") but is not the entire game.

      Here's the complete version for ~$13 https://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/sid-...c-cd-key-steam
      cool, once I am sure it will run on my computer I will go for it
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      The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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      • johnnya24
        Hall of Famer
        • Mar 2011
        • 29451

        Originally posted by revo
        The gaming computer I bought last week for $599 is now being sold for $528, so I call Amazon and they say “sorry, we don’t price match” and then they tell me to simply buy it again and send the first one back. I said I wanted to avoid that hassle for both of us, but they told me to do it (which I did). Pain in the ass, but $71 is $71!
        If were confident enough to build it yourself, you'd get a much more powerful PC for that budget than a pre-built could offer.

        A lot of people just don't like the hassle of building ... I get that.

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        • revo
          Administrator
          • Jan 2011
          • 26128

          Originally posted by johnnya24
          If were confident enough to build it yourself, you'd get a much more powerful PC for that budget than a pre-built could offer.

          A lot of people just don't like the hassle of building ... I get that.
          This is easily the best computer I’ve ever had — and it’s tiny, to boot! I coupled that with a 32” Samsung monitor I picked up for $250.

          I haven’t bought a new computer in over a decade, pretty psyched to have landed this one.

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          • The Feral Slasher
            MVP
            • Oct 2011
            • 13397

            Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
            cool, once I am sure it will run on my computer I will go for it
            So many accounts and steps....but i think i am almost there. Downloading now
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            Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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            The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
            George Orwell, 1984

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            • johnnya24
              Hall of Famer
              • Mar 2011
              • 29451

              Originally posted by revo
              This is easily the best computer I’ve ever had — and it’s tiny, to boot! I coupled that with a 32” Samsung monitor I picked up for $250.

              I haven’t bought a new computer in over a decade, pretty psyched to have landed this one.
              If I recall, it was a small form factor Ryzen Quad core APU with no hyperthreading and no discreet GPU. Unless you're only using that for office work and browsing, it's not going to do anything else, nor can it realistically be upgraded because of the form factor. If you pushed the budget just a little bit, and got something that was more upgradable (Ryzen's with a good motherboard are incredible value for upgrading!), you could upgrade a budget PC today to be relevant for the next 5/6 years (at least). Quad cores are fast becoming obsolete, and that CPU does not even have hyperthreading/SMT.

              But if you're only using it for office work and browsing, then getting the discount is nice. I admire the compulsion to go through the RMA process and re-dispatching ... I wouldn't have the patience for that

              I feel bad not being positive about peoples purchases ... is that the correct etiquette? The polite me wants to only say nice things, like eating a horrible meal as a guest ... "how was it?" *disgusting* ... "hmmm ... delicious ... can i have some more?"

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              • The Feral Slasher
                MVP
                • Oct 2011
                • 13397

                Originally posted by johnnya24
                If I recall, it was a small form factor Ryzen Quad core APU with no hyperthreading and no discreet GPU. Unless you're only using that for office work and browsing, it's not going to do anything else, nor can it realistically be upgraded because of the form factor. If you pushed the budget just a little bit, and got something that was more upgradable (Ryzen's with a good motherboard are incredible value for upgrading!), you could upgrade a budget PC today to be relevant for the next 5/6 years (at least). Quad cores are fast becoming obsolete, and that CPU does not even have hyperthreading/SMT.

                But if you're only using it for office work and browsing, then getting the discount is nice. I admire the compulsion to go through the RMA process and re-dispatching ... I wouldn't have the patience for that

                I feel bad not being positive about peoples purchases ... is that the correct etiquette? The polite me wants to only say nice things, like eating a horrible meal as a guest ... "how was it?" *disgusting* ... "hmmm ... delicious ... can i have some more?"
                Now I'll never know if you really like my cooking
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                Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                George Orwell, 1984

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                • johnnya24
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 29451

                  Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
                  Now I'll never know if you really like my cooking
                  Me @ 0.50

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                  • The Feral Slasher
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 13397

                    Originally posted by johnnya24
                    One of the best games ever ... I have (embarrassed face) over 5K hours in this game.

                    I'll give you the the perfect mod / interface setup if you get it.
                    Going thru tutorials...
                    May have questions later
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                    Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                    The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                    George Orwell, 1984

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                    • revo
                      Administrator
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 26128

                      Originally posted by johnnya24
                      If I recall, it was a small form factor Ryzen Quad core APU with no hyperthreading and no discreet GPU. Unless you're only using that for office work and browsing, it's not going to do anything else, nor can it realistically be upgraded because of the form factor. If you pushed the budget just a little bit, and got something that was more upgradable (Ryzen's with a good motherboard are incredible value for upgrading!), you could upgrade a budget PC today to be relevant for the next 5/6 years (at least). Quad cores are fast becoming obsolete, and that CPU does not even have hyperthreading/SMT.

                      But if you're only using it for office work and browsing, then getting the discount is nice. I admire the compulsion to go through the RMA process and re-dispatching ... I wouldn't have the patience for that

                      I feel bad not being positive about peoples purchases ... is that the correct etiquette? The polite me wants to only say nice things, like eating a horrible meal as a guest ... "how was it?" *disgusting* ... "hmmm ... delicious ... can i have some more?"
                      Well, this one was recommended by my brother in law who's a computer nerd and IT professional, but yes, that's about all I'm doing (and playing PC games that are 5+ years old, lol).

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                      • The Feral Slasher
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 13397

                        Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
                        Going thru tutorials...
                        May have questions later
                        Seems to take my computer a while to load. Is it best not to exit and just pause the game somehow ?
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                        Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                        The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                        George Orwell, 1984

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                        • johnnya24
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 29451

                          Originally posted by revo
                          Well, this one was recommended by my brother in law who's a computer nerd and IT professional, but yes, that's about all I'm doing (and playing PC games that are 5+ years old, lol).
                          Pauls Hardware is a great resource for PC build suggestions, and he updates it every month with the best builds for particular budgets.

                          Here's his most recent $550 gaming PC build from 2 weeks ago. This trounces that PC in every way (apart from size ). This is more like what I'd expect from a $500 build ... note I much the "alternative" options he has here for the motherboard and case.

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                          • Bene Futuis
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 5175

                            Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
                            cool, once I am sure it will run on my computer I will go for it
                            It will bog your computer down toward the end when there are so many units on the board and the AI turns are much more involved. My previous computer could run it no problem but turns got very long near the end especially if you have some of the animations enabled (you can switch them off in the game's options, particularly the aircraft one). My computer was ~8 years old, though and still didn't have much of an issue with it.
                            More American children die by gunfire in a year than on-duty police officers and active duty military.

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                            • Bene Futuis
                              All Star
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 5175

                              Originally posted by johnnya24
                              Pauls Hardware is a great resource for PC build suggestions, and he updates it every month with the best builds for particular budgets.

                              Here's his most recent $550 gaming PC build from 2 weeks ago. This trounces that PC in every way (apart from size ). This is more like what I'd expect from a $500 build ... note I much the "alternative" options he has here for the motherboard and case.
                              Building your own is still the superior option but you're saving about ~$100-150 nowadays. My time is worth more than that, particularly with having to order many packages from many sellers, inevitably something is missing/wrong/broken/yada yada.

                              Just buy a premade one on ibuypower.com or one of those similar sites. Even the bargain basement ones are good to go unless you're trying to run the newest games on the highest settings.
                              More American children die by gunfire in a year than on-duty police officers and active duty military.

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                              • Bene Futuis
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 5175

                                That said, building a PC is very easy even for the technologically inept.
                                More American children die by gunfire in a year than on-duty police officers and active duty military.

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