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  • Kevin Seitzer
    All Star
    • Jan 2011
    • 9175

    Posted the spreadsheet updates in a separate thread so they don't get lost.
    "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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    • Ken
      Administrator
      • Feb 2016
      • 10977

      Originally posted by revo
      Mookie is out for this draft?
      My performance in VD13 is already guaranteed to be better than VD12. I feel like I've accomplished something already.

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      • The Feral Slasher
        MVP
        • Oct 2011
        • 13396

        Originally posted by hacko
        1.12 Alex Rodriquez SS 2007

        54 HR 515 OBP
        One of us needs to fix our OBP calculation, hoping its you
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        Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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        The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
        George Orwell, 1984

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        • Ken
          Administrator
          • Feb 2016
          • 10977

          Originally posted by The Feral Slasher
          One of us needs to fix our OBP calculation, hoping its you
          .
          Well he had a .422 OBP in 2007, so I'm thinking Hacko was just a bit too optimistic.

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          • hacko
            Welcome to the Big Leagues, Kid
            • Jan 2011
            • 2348

            Originally posted by Ken
            .
            Well he had a .422 OBP in 2007, so I'm thinking Hacko was just a bit too optimistic.
            for some reason on my revo sheet it had the 515 obp I thought it seemed high but didn’t check - oh well I still stick with ARod

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            • Ken
              Administrator
              • Feb 2016
              • 10977

              Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer
              Given that we don't have SH in the hitting stats in the spreadsheet, how are we supposed to calculate OBP?

              There are a lot of borked-up career stats in the 2000s and especially 2010s hitters, and I'm not sure how to fix them, and now I realize I don't know how we've calculated OBP in these spreadsheets in the past, either.

              Edit to answer my own question. I guess not using the PA column.
              i.e.
              (H+BB+HB)/(AB+BB+HB+SF)
              not (H+BB+HB)/PA
              I'm not following you on this question. Why wouldn't you just use PA? It looks like you have PA in the spreadsheet.

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              • Kevin Seitzer
                All Star
                • Jan 2011
                • 9175

                Originally posted by Ken
                I'm not following you on this question. Why wouldn't you just use PA? It looks like you have PA in the spreadsheet.
                Because sacrifice bunts (SH) are excluded from the denominator of OBP, but they are included in PA. I wondered why my calculations (using the PA column) weren't matching BB-Ref OBP numbers, and it turns out that's why.
                "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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                • Kevin Seitzer
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 9175

                  Originally posted by hacko
                  for some reason on my revo sheet it had the 515 obp I thought it seemed high but didn’t check - oh well I still stick with ARod
                  It's a good pick. I likely would have taken him if he'd made the turn back to me.
                  "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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                  • The Feral Slasher
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 13396

                    Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer
                    It's a good pick. I likely would have taken him if he'd made the turn back to me.
                    I considered him with my first pick as well
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                    Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                    The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                    George Orwell, 1984

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                    • revo
                      Administrator
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 26127

                      Originally posted by hacko
                      for some reason on my revo sheet it had the 515 obp I thought it seemed high but didn’t check - oh well I still stick with ARod
                      I only entered new players from the last two years! I take no credit for that blunder!

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                      • mjl
                        Journeyman
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 3906

                        weird, didn't get an email notification from hacko sending me a message. anyway. busy a bit with meetings (since I got promoted my days in the office are a bit more packed) but will try to have an opinion, but it might not be until tonight. at least this delay will only happen every two rounds!
                        In the best of times, our days are numbered, anyway. And it would be a crime against Nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were presumably designed in the first place, and which the gravest statesmen and the hoarsest politicians hope to make available to all men in the end: I mean the opportunity to do good work, to fall in love, to enjoy friends, to sit under trees, to read, to hit a ball and bounce the baby.

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                        • mjl
                          Journeyman
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 3906

                          btw, not that I think it's worth changing (though if we do I demand a recount for VD12), but bbref now has Radbourn with 60 wins in 1884, not 59.
                          In the best of times, our days are numbered, anyway. And it would be a crime against Nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were presumably designed in the first place, and which the gravest statesmen and the hoarsest politicians hope to make available to all men in the end: I mean the opportunity to do good work, to fall in love, to enjoy friends, to sit under trees, to read, to hit a ball and bounce the baby.

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                          • Ken
                            Administrator
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 10977

                            Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer
                            Because sacrifice bunts (SH) are excluded from the denominator of OBP, but they are included in PA. I wondered why my calculations (using the PA column) weren't matching BB-Ref OBP numbers, and it turns out that's why.
                            Ahhh - gotcha

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                            • heyelander
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 10398

                              Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer
                              It's a good pick. I likely would have taken him if he'd made the turn back to me.
                              it was bonds, xxx, arod or mays for me... guess I picked the worst.
                              Last edited by heyelander; 01-10-2019, 05:43 PM.
                              I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...

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                              • heyelander
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 10398

                                Originally posted by johnnya24
                                I'm glad someone else aldi stunt cares as much as I do.
                                missed this... ha!
                                I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...

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