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  • Fantasy Baseball Ethics: Your thoughts on this?

    So, at the end of our championships in baseball, every year a member of our league always picks up top players on the FA list, not to keep for himself, but to block other people from keeping them the following year. It's a 12 team h2h keeper in which we keep 7 players. What are your thoughts on this? Is it good strategy, or is it in bad taste? Just curious on your thoughts, since there are no rules against it league wise it's obviously allowed.

  • #2
    I'm confused -- what are top players doing on your waiver wire? Can you give some examples?

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    • #3
      I didn't explain it very well, sorry. Little sick today so I'm a little out of it. Some examples are players that were hurt, and set to return in the off season or later for example: Cliff Lee, Matt Harvey, Brett Lawrie, Matt Wieters, Garrett Richards. Basically the reasoning behind why he does it is what I'm curious as to what people think of it. Picking them up with no intention of keeping them after the season has ended just so others cannot pick them up and make them keepers.

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      • #4
        If it's allowed in your league, I don't see an ethical question. Sometimes, I have teams with far more than the allowed number of keepers. Sure, I could release them all, so that other owners could grab them up, but usually, I just hang onto them, because if I can't package them for a better keeper, then I'll just let them go into the draft. Isn't this the same concept? If you can, within the rules of course, block others from having good things, it makes the good things you have even better. That's good play, in my opinion. If you guys think it's excessive and unethical, then make a rule (usually a FAAB deadline) to keep it from happening.

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        • #5
          Why doesn't he keep them? Why aren't you picking them up before he does?
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          • #6
            Yeah, I mean teams are going to naturally have more players that could be potentially keepers, and I wouldn't expect them to simply drop them so others could pick them up at seasons end. I don't really have an opinion on what he's doing, I am just curious what others think about it. I know some people don't like it and others think it's good strategy. So really I just want to get an opinion from a larger pool.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Waltsanity View Post
              I didn't explain it very well, sorry. Little sick today so I'm a little out of it. Some examples are players that were hurt, and set to return in the off season or later for example: Cliff Lee, Matt Harvey, Brett Lawrie, Matt Wieters, Garrett Richards. Basically the reasoning behind why he does it is what I'm curious as to what people think of it. Picking them up with no intention of keeping them after the season has ended just so others cannot pick them up and make them keepers.
              If he is breaking no rules then it's fine. And do you know for sure that he won't be keeping them?

              If everyone else in the league has an issue with it, then perhaps said owner needs to find another league becaue his way if doing things rubs everyone the wrong way.

              Personally I like when owners do things to increase their chances of winning and see the people who complain about it as whiny little babies.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by mjl View Post
                Why doesn't he keep them? Why aren't you picking them up before he does?
                I didn't pick them up because I probably wouldn't keep them. And he's not keeping them because he doesn't need them either. He grabs them to prevent others, like lower teams from grabbing them.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mithrandir View Post
                  If he is breaking no rules then it's fine. And do you know for sure that he won't be keeping them?

                  If everyone else in the league has an issue with it, then perhaps said owner needs to find another league becaue his way if doing things rubs everyone the wrong way.

                  Personally I like when owners do things to increase their chances of winning and see the people who complain about it as whiny little babies.
                  He told me he's not keeping them. Yeah, there's no rules against it, so it's perfectly allowed. I have no problem with it personally because my keepers are better anyways. I'm just curious is all.

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                  • #10
                    I don't see any problem with it, and I'm still unclear why other owners aren't doing the same thing if it's allowed.
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                    • #11
                      Why wouldn't the lower teams pick them up first? Doesn't sound unethical at all.

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                      • #12
                        agreed with the rest - this seems a perfectly viable method to me. now, if like in pogues' league, there were some shenanigans about salaries next year, then there might be reason for alarm. but this all seems pretty straightforward strategy to me.
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                        • #13
                          Yeah I agree with you guys. Thanks for the input.

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                          • #14
                            Can you trade those players in the offseason before keepers are due? I can only keep x players in my league but that doesn't stop me from trying to collect as many keepable players as I can in order to make trades and upgrade my keeper list.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ironfist View Post
                              Can you trade those players in the offseason before keepers are due? I can only keep x players in my league but that doesn't stop me from trying to collect as many keepable players as I can in order to make trades and upgrade my keeper list.
                              Nope. After the trade deadline, you can only trade players once you have chosen your keepers, which is usually between 1-2 weeks before our draft, depending. And you can only trade keepers and draft picks at that point.

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