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    Very early (very) SP keepers for 2015

    14 team mixed..5x5..$300 draft day budget..

    It would be insane to keep both Kershaw ($60) and Felix ($47) in 2015, right? That would be a little more than 1/3 of my budget on two pitchers.

    I can trade during the off season so maybe the smart thing to do would be to trade one of them to a team that has a bunch of cheap keepers with some potential.

    Which one would you deal?
    "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."
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    how absurd is inflation? it does sound pretty ridiculous to keep both of them, but it also sounds a bit ridiculous to keep either of them.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by mjl View Post
      how absurd is inflation? it does sound pretty ridiculous to keep both of them, but it also sounds a bit ridiculous to keep either of them.
      Inflation is pretty steep.

      Kershaw $60
      Felix $47
      Lee $47
      Verlander $46
      Darvish $43
      Scherzer $39
      Price $37

      The next tier is Tanaka, Grienke, Zimm in the $32 range.

      And MadBum, Waino, Strasburg and Sale will be available and they will all go for $40+
      "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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      • #4
        Feliz is worth consideration but I'm sure you could get Kershaw back for the same price or better.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by virgonomic View Post
          Feliz is worth consideration but I'm sure you could get Kershaw back for the same price or better.
          Re: Kershaw, maybe the same price, but i doubt less than $60, especially given how good he has been this year again...and given how the best pitchers seem to be a better value play than hitters. It's also nice to go into a draft knowing you own the best SP in baseball..
          "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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          • #6
            Felix $47 plus a $14 pitcher should give you better stats than Kershaw $60 and a $1 pitcher.

            What were the top few position players salaries?

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            • #7
              One of the problems you may have is that at $60 how much value will someone be willing to give up just to pay the $60 for Kershaw. I would not give up a very good cheap player to get an at "market" value pitcher even if his name was Kershaw.

              In my NL only 5x5 keeper I might trade my $28 Hanley Ramirez for him straight up. I would not trade my $10 Teheran, my $30 Pence, or even my $12 Duda straight up for him. Part of the reasoning is that offense back in the auction looks a little thin this upcoming year.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gregg View Post
                Felix $47 plus a $14 pitcher should give you better stats than Kershaw $60 and a $1 pitcher.

                What were the top few position players salaries?
                That's a good way to look at it Gregg, thanks.

                Top hitters were:

                Miggy $67 (kept)
                Braun $65
                Cutch $62
                Fielder $56 (ouch!)
                CarGo $54 (ouch!)
                Pedroia $51
                Votto $49
                Cano $43

                Trout and Goldy go back into the draft in 2015 so they will be $60+
                "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Gregg View Post
                  One of the problems you may have is that at $60 how much value will someone be willing to give up just to pay the $60 for Kershaw. I would not give up a very good cheap player to get an at "market" value pitcher even if his name was Kershaw.

                  In my NL only 5x5 keeper I might trade my $28 Hanley Ramirez for him straight up. I would not trade my $10 Teheran, my $30 Pence, or even my $12 Duda straight up for him. Part of the reasoning is that offense back in the auction looks a little thin this upcoming year.
                  This past off season i traded a $1 Segura, $15 Werth and a $16 Anibal Sanchez for a $67 Miggy. Not saying any of the three i dealt were great keepers, but they were pretty solid.
                  "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mithrandir View Post
                    That's a good way to look at it Gregg, thanks.

                    Top hitters were:

                    Miggy $67 (kept)
                    Braun $65
                    Cutch $62
                    Fielder $56 (ouch!)
                    CarGo $54 (ouch!)
                    Pedroia $51
                    Votto $49
                    Cano $43

                    Trout and Goldy go back into the draft in 2015 so they will be $60+
                    I could see most of those guys going back. Would the Cutch owner trade him for Kershaw?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mithrandir View Post
                      This past off season i traded a $1 Segura, $15 Werth and a $16 Anibal Sanchez for a $67 Miggy. Not saying any of the three i dealt were great keepers, but they were pretty solid.
                      Pre-draft that is a pretty good haul for the Miggy owner. That wouldn't happen in our league.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gregg View Post
                        I could see most of those guys going back. Would the Cutch owner trade him for Kershaw?
                        Hahahaha..funny you should ask that. The Cutch owner is Madducks!! and frankly i wouldn't trade a $60 Kershaw for a $62 Cutch.
                        "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mithrandir View Post
                          Hahahaha..funny you should ask that. The Cutch owner is Madducks!! and frankly i wouldn't trade a $60 Kershaw for a $62 Cutch.
                          He will be the best of that bunch next year.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Gregg View Post
                            He will be the best of that bunch next year.
                            I don't think so. Kershaw is a freak.
                            "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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                            • #15
                              I'd keep them both, but I'm in a points league, not a roto league. In a roto league, I imagine spending that much of your budget on pitching would be foolish, unless you have really cheap/good hitter keepers to round things out.

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