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The Angels have yet to make their usual big splash free agent signing this off-season. Where do you think they'll spend their money--starting pitching (Joe Blanton still under contract, woof), or outfield?
I like the David Freese trade. Actually, I like it for both teams, but more for Anaheim because 3B was a black hole for them previously.Only the madman is absolutely sure. -Robert Anton Wilson, novelist (1932-2007)
Faith is believing what you know ain't so. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910)
A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
-- William James
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Here is my question about the Halos. What is their plan for Kole Calhoun?
On one hand, this is a potent offense. The team weakness is SP. On the other, they seem to spend money covering spots which block prospects. KC did well for them down the stretch.
2013 .274/.342/.448, 8 HR in 222 PA. He just turned 27 and has a usable corner OF glove. Projecting his 2013 stats to full time play in the #8 slot gives
550 PA 20 HRs, 72 Runs, 79 RBI, 5 SB, .282 BA, .790 OPS.
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The question is whether that projection is a fair one. Was his 2013 a sign of things to come, or just an early career outlier? Don't get me wrong, I like Calhoun; I'm only posing a question.
Also, ordinarily I would say that those projected numbers aren't so great for a corner OF, but when your center fielder can put up numbers like Trout can, you may not have to have absolute hammers in both right and left.Only the madman is absolutely sure. -Robert Anton Wilson, novelist (1932-2007)
Faith is believing what you know ain't so. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910)
A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
-- William James
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Calhoun's pretty darned good. I think those are very reasonable projections by onejayhawk, and he's got a chance to bust through them a bit, too. His minor league stats have been consistently great, and he's just the type of prospect who can slip under the radar because he wasn't on a Top 100 list. He's got a great all-around toolset, and you'd be hard-pressed to find someone say anything negative about the kid.
I could see him swiping double digit steals, for one thing. I also think he could work his way up to the top of the Halos' lineup quite a bit (he was batting second fairly frequently at the end of 2013, for example), so his Runs total should be boosted as a result. In short, he's a guy I'm pretty high on for 2014.
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Originally posted by Don Quixote View PostThe question is whether that projection is a fair one. Was his 2013 a sign of things to come, or just an early career outlier? Don't get me wrong, I like Calhoun; I'm only posing a question.
Also, ordinarily I would say that those projected numbers aren't so great for a corner OF, but when your center fielder can put up numbers like Trout can, you may not have to have absolute hammers in both right and left.
Calhoun is a tweener. His career has been handicapped by his stature, under six feet, and his defense, strictly corner OF. For years the hitting has been plenty good enough for a full time MLB glove man.
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Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy
GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostHardly an outlier and actual numbers, not projections. Those are his rookie stats, in full season format. They would place him second on the Angels' OF, after Trout and ahead of Trumbo. Calhoun's MLE are .303/.366/.501.
Calhoun is a tweener. His career has been handicapped by his stature, under six feet, and his defense, strictly corner OF. For years the hitting has been plenty good enough for a full time MLB glove man.
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I like the guy, but I don't know if he'll really put up those kind of numbers as a full-time, full-year player.Only the madman is absolutely sure. -Robert Anton Wilson, novelist (1932-2007)
Faith is believing what you know ain't so. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910)
A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
-- William James
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His minor league stats are good, but certainly not eye popping. Add in the fact that he's always been pretty old for the league that he's been in and I tend to agree with DQ...could be useful, could also be a 4th outfielder. Interesting to see that he skipped AA ball altogether, so that might work in his favor..."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
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Originally posted by Hornsby View PostHis minor league stats are good, but certainly not eye popping. Add in the fact that he's always been pretty old for the league that he's been in and I tend to agree with DQ...could be useful, could also be a 4th outfielder. Interesting to see that he skipped AA ball altogether, so that might work in his favor...
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Originally posted by Bodhizefa View PostConsidering the declining offense around baseball these days, his minor league stats look pretty eye-popping to me. And it's the all-around ability that really makes him stand out -- he's above average to good at practically everything."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Your shitty future continues to offend me."
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Originally posted by Don Quixote View PostI understand how you got your projection. The question for any player is whether one partial season's numbers can be fairly projected over a full season, given how pitchers adjust. I don't have an answer, but I suspect that simple multiplication is not necessarily a good way.
I like the guy, but I don't know if he'll really put up those kind of numbers as a full-time, full-year player.
Originally posted by Hornsby View PostHis minor league stats are good, but certainly not eye popping. Add in the fact that he's always been pretty old for the league that he's been in and I tend to agree with DQ...could be useful, could also be a 4th outfielder. Interesting to see that he skipped AA ball altogether, so that might work in his favor...
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GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostHow is a an MLE of .303/.366/.501 not eyepopping? Bear in mind that adjusts for the difference in pitching quality and ballpark effects. That said, my fear is exactly that the Angels make him a 4th OF/DH. They already have Trumbo in that role.
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Literally means "pulling your pants down to fart" which is a Chinese idiom for "wasted effort." Makes sense to me!
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostIt's a valid concern, but his minor league numbers were even better.
How is a an MLE of .303/.366/.501 not eyepopping? Bear in mind that adjusts for the difference in pitching quality and ballpark effects. That said, my fear is exactly that the Angels make him a 4th OF/DH. They already have Trumbo in that role.
J"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Your shitty future continues to offend me."
-Warren Ellis
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I like the Trumbo trade for them, but they need Pujols and/or Hamilton to bounce back or they will be WAY short on power. Still, a rotation of Weaver, CJ, Santiago, Skaggs and Garrett Richards is pretty solid. I think they still have another hitter signing to make, with Trout/Hamilton/Calhoun as full time starters in the outfield and nobody to DH.
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Back in the day, ie early 80s, the Angels owner said, "Baseball players are like restaurants. You love the expensive ones and hate the overpriced ones." He never learned to tell one from the other.
Originally posted by Hornsby View PostBecause I don't believe in MLE? I think that it's nothing more than a rough guess. And they traded Trumbo, who was a starter, IIRC.
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