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Rumors have them going hard for Hamels...with several spots now blocked, it makes sense. Betts, Bradley, some of the young pitching...they've got plenty to make it happen and still sign Lester."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Your shitty future continues to offend me."
-Warren Ellis
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Originally posted by Hornsby View PostRumors have them going hard for Hamels...with several spots now blocked, it makes sense. Betts, Bradley, some of the young pitching...they've got plenty to make it happen and still sign Lester.
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Originally posted by Hornsby View PostRumors have them going hard for Hamels...with several spots now blocked, it makes sense. Betts, Bradley, some of the young pitching...they've got plenty to make it happen and still sign Lester.I'm just here for the baseball.
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Originally posted by chancellor View PostYup, looks like the Red Sox are going to try and sell their soul to rock and roll for the next 3-4 years. I'd bet on Xander, Bradley, one of the 3B, and Owens to go get Hamels.
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Originally posted by Bodhizefa View PostIt should be noted that I don't have a dog in this fight (i.e. I'm not a Boston or Philly fan), but it would be batshit insane to deal Bogaerts for Hamels in any capacity.
Might cost them Bogaerts, Bradley, one of the 3B and maybe a couple more prospects.
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Originally posted by Bodhizefa View PostIt should be noted that I don't have a dog in this fight (i.e. I'm not a Boston or Philly fan), but it would be batshit insane to deal Bogaerts for Hamels in any capacity. There's just no way that happens at all. Hamels has some value in trade since he's good, but he's got four years left (plus an option), a lot of mileage on that arm, and he's not exactly a bargain at $22.5 million per year. Owens, one of the 3B, and Bradley sounds like a great haul for the Phils if they could get it, but there's no way they get more than that. And there's certainly no chance Bogaerts gets dealt in that deal at all.
If I had any doubt about who might not go in that deal, it would be Owens.
The Sox might go for someone else if they really don't want to deal Bogaerts.I'm just here for the baseball.
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Originally posted by fuhrdog View PostWhat if Philly ate all of Hamels contract, giving the Sox Hamels plus the money to sign Lester and Shields?
Might cost them Bogaerts, Bradley, one of the 3B and maybe a couple more prospects.
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Originally posted by chancellor View PostI beg to differ, and I'm not a Boston or Philly fan either. IMO, they won't get Hamels without dealing Bogaerts. And Hamels money is far better than what they'll have to pay one of the big three FA pitchers this year. I'd way, way rather have Hamels at 4/96 with an option than Jon Lester at 6/132 or whatever other madness he'll command. Or Shields at 5/100.
If I had any doubt about who might not go in that deal, it would be Owens.
The Sox might go for someone else if they really don't want to deal Bogaerts.
Reason #2: Hanley at shortstop for another four years? And without a solid backup, especially considering Hanley's injury history?
I just don't see Xander leaving unless some team makes it exceptionally attractive for the Red Sox. As it is, buying a free agent pitcher makes a helluva lot more sense than dealing a young, promising middle infielder.
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Originally posted by Bodhizefa View PostReason #1 I don't see it: Hamels' money plus Bogaert's lost value is greater in overall $ than Lester at 6/$132 (that's why you've heard that the Red Sox have made that kind of offer)
Reason #2: Hanley at shortstop for another four years? And without a solid backup, especially considering Hanley's injury history?
I just don't see Xander leaving unless some team makes it exceptionally attractive for the Red Sox. As it is, buying a free agent pitcher makes a helluva lot more sense than dealing a young, promising middle infielder.I'm unconsoled I'm lonely, I am so much better than I used to be.
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Originally posted by BuckyBuckner View PostSo if they trade Xander they aren't allowed to trade for another shortstop? Is their a clause in Hanley's contract that says he has to play shortstop if they trade Xander? See where I'm going with this?
In reality I think I lose both of these.
The Red Sox are actually doing what I was hoping for from the Cubs. Going and buying the free agents their club needs to be good. And trying to trade excess for something to improve their team.
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Originally posted by Moonlight J View PostThey're truly crazy if they trade Bogaerts. Would be like history repeating itself (Hanley)I'm unconsoled I'm lonely, I am so much better than I used to be.
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Originally posted by Gregg View PostI hope they keep Betts and trade Xander. I hope even more that the Cubs get Hamels.
In reality I think I lose both of these.
The Red Sox are actually doing what I was hoping for from the Cubs. Going and buying the free agents their club needs to be good. And trying to trade excess for something to improve their team.I'm unconsoled I'm lonely, I am so much better than I used to be.
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