2K24: Toronto Blue Jays

[chancellor]

One bad start and a second disastrous start later, where do y'all stand on J.A. Happ? Do his fundamentals still suggest that over the course of the long season he'll be a strong/improved performer when compared against prior seasons, or are you afraid that the signs of his fundamental improvement were exaggerated/temporary?

Can I choose C) Some of all of the above?

Seriously, I think his K rate will increase - partly since the average hitter is K'ing more and partly due to his new willingness to attack high in the zone. Now, as revo noted, I agree that 12+/9 is pretty absurd, but I can see these changes netting a 9.0 K/9 IP rate, which would be a nice uptick.

OTOH, I'm not that excited about his ERA and WHIP getting notably better. I think he'll have more QS, but his bad outings I expect will be very, very bad. Missing high in the zone consistently during an outing is going to lead to really bad results.

[TranaGreg]

One bad start and a second disastrous start later, where do y'all stand on J.A. Happ? Do his fundamentals still suggest that over the course of the long season he'll be a strong/improved performer when compared against prior seasons, or are you afraid that the signs of his fundamental improvement were exaggerated/temporary?

I still like him as a starter, but I do think that the significant improvements that some were pointing at were exaggerated/based on a small sample size, and that regression towards his mean was/is to be expected.

[revo]

Marcus Stroman mercifully placed on the DL.

[Teenwolf]

Marcus Stroman mercifully placed on the DL.

I pray that he's been hurt. It's the only thing that could explain his suckitude.

I have him for $15 through 2019 and he seems like an $8 cut at this point.

[cool hand]

I have him for $15 through 2019 and he seems like an $8 cut at this point.

I had him for $2 in a contract year last year and decided not to extend him. Feeling pretty good about that right now.

[B-Fly]

The Mets' offense couldn't get Jaime Garcia back on track, but boy were they great medicine for whatever was ailing J.A. Happ through his last few starts.

[revo]

Josh Donaldson leaves in the 5th inning with an apparent injury. Do they have a third baseman in the minors who might be able to take over if necessary?

[TranaGreg]

Josh Donaldson leaves in the 5th inning with an apparent injury. Do they have a third baseman in the minors who might be able to take over if necessary?

I see what you did there.

edit: as Keith Law just tweeted, Vlad went 6-5 today & invented a new type of base hit

[chancellor]

Josh Donaldson leaves in the 5th inning with an apparent injury. Do they have a third baseman in the minors who might be able to take over if necessary?

If Jays management thinks Russell Martin is the answer, they clearly do not understand the question.

[virgonomic]

Any predictions on when Osuna comes back? His administrative leave has been extended (for the 5th time) to June 18. His long-term prognosis should be known after his court date. Is jail time likely?

I'm looking at trading for him. Need help in saves now but late-season would be more important.

[Pauly]

Any predictions on when Osuna comes back? His administrative leave has been extended (for the 5th time) to June 18. His long-term prognosis should be known after his court date. Is jail time likely?

I'm looking at trading for him. Need help in saves now but late-season would be more important.

I get the feeling he doesnt play again this season. After all these delays he will get an 82 game suspension like hector Olivera did. Maybe fewer if the facts don’t support the charges, but wasnt that the case with Aroldis and he still got a 30 day suspension. my guess is that if he did anything at all the jays will back off ever using him again in the me too age.

[Ken]

I get the feeling he doesnt play again this season. After all these delays he will get an 82 game suspension like hector Olivera did. Maybe fewer if the facts don’t support the charges, but wasnt that the case with Aroldis and he still got a 30 day suspension. my guess is that if he did anything at all the jays will back off ever using him again in the me too age.

I have the same feeling - I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. For me he's not worth a bench spot.

[Hornsby]

I have the same feeling - I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. For me he's not worth a bench spot.

Given my spot in the pack, I'd take a shot on him if his contract was reasonable enough. Although this, in addition to his already documented anxiety issues, would certainly give me pause...hell reading this back now, no way

[virgonomic]

Given my spot in the pack, I'd take a shot on him if his contract was reasonable enough. Although this, in addition to his already documented anxiety issues, would certainly give me pause...hell reading this back now, no way

No salaries, 6 bench + 2 DL. +1 bench Sep 1. I convinced myself that Osuna was the only option, but there are other middling teams with closers (Claw, Greene, Herrera, Rodney) plus Romo is a FA. Is he a better bet than Osuna?

ETA: I grabbed Romo. Roe and Alvarado have been used prior to the 8th so things are looking good.

[virgonomic]

Osuna suspended 75 games through Aug. 4, retroactive to May 8.

Steve Phillips says though he can return Aug 4, his court case will be pending, and the Jays should suspend him with pay to avoid him being a distraction to the team. Pauly said he doubts he pitches this year and Ken said he is not worth a roster spot. Sounds about right.