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  • 2013 - Year of the DWar

    Top 10 single season DWars of all time, per B-R

    1. Andrelton Simmons (23) 5.4 2013 R
    Terry Turner (25) 5.4 1906 R

    3. Art Fletcher (32) 5.1 1917 R
    4. Mark Belanger (31) 4.9 1975 R
    5. Ozzie Smith+ (34) 4.7 1989 B
    6. Carlos Gomez (27) 4.6 2013 R
    7. Brooks Robinson+ (31) 4.5 1968 R
    8. Mark Belanger (24) 4.4 1968 R
    Frankie Frisch+ (28) 4.4 1927 B
    Manny Machado (20) 4.4 2013 R

    Their calculation apparently changed in 2003:
    Based on Baseball Info Solutions defensive runs saved from 2003 on and total zone rating developed by Sean Smith of BaseballProjection.com previously
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    Dayum.

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    • #3
      whatever one thinks of new metrics, it's nice to see that players whose skills were resoundingly obvious - Belanger, Brooks, and Ozzie among them - show up on these lists....
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      RP Bednar 10, Bender 10, Graterol 2
      C Stallings 2, Casali 1
      1B Votto 10, 3B ERios 2, 1B Zimmerman 2, 2S Chisholm 5, 2B Hoerner 5, 2B Solano 2, 2B LGarcia 10, SS Gregorius 17
      OF Cain 14, Bader 1, Daza 1

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      • #4
        It should be pointed out that for all these individual "heroics", only two of the ten were on teams that made the post-season.

        I'm not sure what DWar even is, but it strikes me as a tool the more sabermetric types use to justify a preconceived notion. Very infield-heavy.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Don Quixote View Post
          It should be pointed out that for all these individual "heroics", only two of the ten were on teams that made the post-season.
          why would that even matter? that's like saying a good hitter or pitcher's season doesn't matter if they don't make the playoffs.

          I'm not sure what DWar even is, but it strikes me as a tool the more sabermetric types use to justify a preconceived notion. Very infield-heavy.
          it's the defensive version of WAR - Wins Above Replacement. it's a measure of how good a player is defensively. you can argue about the specifics of it, but it's certainly better than fielding percentage.

          it's weighted to infielders (specifically, *non-1B* infielders) because it's recognized that those positions are harder to field than the others. there's a whole body of literature on this point...
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