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maybe a little too tricky (semi-dump trade from 3rd place)

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    maybe a little too tricky (semi-dump trade from 3rd place)

    pre-note: I wish there was an easy way to share a snapshot of our league, or at least the standings. Maybe I'll write something that will scrape the common sites and allow me to repost the data to a static page so I can talk about it without retyping everything.

    Anyway. 10-team NL-only 5x5. I am considering getting tricky with doing a semi-dump trade from 3rd place because I think it's incredibly unlikely that I move up and I'm maybe feeling a bit too safe about moving down. Here's the details:

    Team 1 (in first place) and Team 2 (in second place) both made a bunch of trades this week. Team 1 acquired ARamirez, Belt, Chapman, and Kennedy, giving up Carlos Gomez and a handful of minor leaguers/injured players. Team 2 acquired Jay, Ludwick, CJohnson, and RSoriano, giving up Lagares, Alonso, JTurner, and a few small pieces.

    Current Standings:
    Team 1: 84.0
    Team 2: 83.5
    Me: 77.0
    Team 4: 66.5
    Team 5: 62.0

    Unfortunately, my points are divided between categories that I am leading the league in and categories I will have trouble moving in:

    AVG: 10 pts (.278, second place is .269)
    HR: 8 pts (team 1: 180, team 2: 168, me: 157, then 147, 143, etc.)
    R: 10 points (770, team 1: 748, team 2: 740, then 693, etc.)
    RBI: 10 points (761, second place has 681)
    SB: 6 points (84, team ahead of me has 106, teams behind have 80, then team 4: 75, then a big gap)

    ERA: 6 points (3.52, team ahead of me 3.49, teams behind 3.54, 3.55, then a huge gap)
    K: 9 points (team 1: 996, me: 953, team 2: 944, team 4: 932, then a gap)
    SV: 7 points (55, 54, me: 49, team 1: 45, 42, team 2: 39, then a gap. I have three closers now, I could pick up these points pretty easily)
    W: 4 points (the other top teams are way ahead in 1st-3rd in this, I have 56, close teams have 60, 60, 57, 54, 53, 51)
    WHIP: 7 points (1.196, me: 1.217, team 1: 1.222, 1.227, then a big gap)

    So if one of the teams that just made multiple acquisitions suddenly collapsed, maybe I have a shot of getting into the top two, but I can't make it on my own without my starting pitching getting magically better. I could try to trade for decent starters, but basically every good starter that's on a bad team is at a keeper price and it might be prohibitively expensive to try to trade for them (Bumgarner 8, Cingrani 5, Bailey 8, DeLaRosa 1, Leake 2, Medlen 10). I could try to trade for Cain or Hamels but meh. I could probably get Hamels fairly cheap, and that is another way to go here, but I am not convinced that does much for me.

    Here's the offer I have on the table:
    Ryu ($9/year 1), Grilli ($5/2), Freeman ($16, already extended for three more years after this) for
    Votto ($53), McCutchen (expiring), LHawkins ($10/1), Zimmermann ($25/1), EYJr ($1/1), and Soler ($6/contract not running yet)

    I'd be replacing the open spots in my lineup (Cutch, EYJr, Hawkins) with some subset of Lake, Gregorius, Blanco, Arrieta, Capuano, EJackson. Wandy if/when he comes back.

    Am I safe here?
    In the best of times, our days are numbered, anyway. And it would be a crime against Nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were presumably designed in the first place, and which the gravest statesmen and the hoarsest politicians hope to make available to all men in the end: I mean the opportunity to do good work, to fall in love, to enjoy friends, to sit under trees, to read, to hit a ball and bounce the baby.
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    I does look like you could move down a few but not enough to get out of third - picking up Ryu Grilli and Freeman would be a pretty good scose

    It might come back to bite you but it doesn't look like it will

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    • #3
      well, after one night, it was a good day to get rid of Zimmermann, although I wish I'd noticed that the site put Caleb Gindl into an active slot, because I would have used Navarro and gotten his homer off JZ :P
      In the best of times, our days are numbered, anyway. And it would be a crime against Nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were presumably designed in the first place, and which the gravest statesmen and the hoarsest politicians hope to make available to all men in the end: I mean the opportunity to do good work, to fall in love, to enjoy friends, to sit under trees, to read, to hit a ball and bounce the baby.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by swampdragon View Post
        I does look like you could move down a few but not enough to get out of third - picking up Ryu Grilli and Freeman would be a pretty good scose

        It might come back to bite you but it doesn't look like it will
        Agree - I see you at risk for 6 lost points, but I doubt it'll be that bad unless you get hammered with late injuries. And I agree with swampy that those three would be a really good haul in your league.
        I'm just here for the baseball.

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        • #5
          What place is the team you'd be trading with?

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          • #6
            first. really only the first and second place teams might be interested at this point (the team in 5th already dumped somewhat, although I think he might be able to make it back into 4th anyway) and the second place team was uninterested in basically the same offer for a $5 Puig and a $16 CarGo going into the last year of his contract.
            In the best of times, our days are numbered, anyway. And it would be a crime against Nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were presumably designed in the first place, and which the gravest statesmen and the hoarsest politicians hope to make available to all men in the end: I mean the opportunity to do good work, to fall in love, to enjoy friends, to sit under trees, to read, to hit a ball and bounce the baby.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mjl View Post
              first. really only the first and second place teams might be interested at this point (the team in 5th already dumped somewhat, although I think he might be able to make it back into 4th anyway) and the second place team was uninterested in basically the same offer for a $5 Puig and a $16 CarGo going into the last year of his contract.
              I sure hope you're right about that 5th place team making it back into 4th

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mjl View Post
                well, after one night, it was a good day to get rid of Zimmermann, although I wish I'd noticed that the site put Caleb Gindl into an active slot, because I would have used Navarro and gotten his homer off JZ :P
                Gindl was called back up on Friday and as of right now, since being called back up he is 2 for 2 with two HR. I'm a genius!
                In the best of times, our days are numbered, anyway. And it would be a crime against Nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were presumably designed in the first place, and which the gravest statesmen and the hoarsest politicians hope to make available to all men in the end: I mean the opportunity to do good work, to fall in love, to enjoy friends, to sit under trees, to read, to hit a ball and bounce the baby.

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