NL-only trades

[overkill94]

12-team NL-only 5x5 (OBP) keeper league - time to blow this mother up. Already traded R. Soriano for a $4 Trevor Rosenthal. Still have the following two offers on the table:

Logan Morrison ($13/2014)
for
Johnny Cueto (expiring)
Jon Jay (expiring)

and

Gerrit Cole ($9/2015 and could extend him for $5 per year going into the last year)
for
Kershaw ($40/2015 - any chance that's a keeper price?)
Y. Molina (expiring)

The problem is, I'm in 10th right now and 3 points back of 9th. I know I'm not going to finish in the money, but the further I fall in the standings, the less keepers I get (right now it would be 11, last place gets 9) and the less transaction money I get. As of now, my keeper list looks something like:
Ludwick ($4/2014)
Forsythe ($1/2015)
Tabata ($1/2015)
Eovaldi ($1/2014)
J. Chacin ($1/2015)
Rosenthal ($4/2015)
Archie Bradley ($3/2015+ - he'll probably be my free minor leaguer unless he starts next year in the rotation)
Blake Parker? ($10/2015 - if Gregg gets traded and he gets a chance and runs with it)
K-Rod? ($10/2015 - if he keeps pitching like he is he'll probably get a closing gig next year, hopefully it's in the NL)
Matt Davidson? ($1/2015+ - doing pretty well in AAA, will there be a spot for him?)
Jon Niese? ($10/2014 - shoulder woes and inconsistency mean I probably won't keep him this time around)
DeJesus? ($7/2015 - decent value, would probably just fill out my keeper list if I needed him)

[chancellor]

I'd be all over the Cole deal and pass on the LoMo deal given your parameters of finish impacting keepers. The LoMo deal isn't totally bad, even if you drop to dead last, you still have Ludwick thru Rosenthal on your list (6 players), plus Cole, LoMo and Bradley. But I'd keep Cueto and Jay and keep your options open for an extra keeper or two if you finish 10th or 11th.

I'm really impressed with Cole, but would keep him at $9 for the two years.

[james33]

I'd trade Kershaw rather than saving him as a keeper, but would shop him widely. Kershaw is arguably the single most valuable NL fantasy player at trading deadline right now. So you should be able to get the single best value in the league as part of a Kershaw deal. Cole $9 isn't bad, but I think you could do better. Shelby Miller has had a few rough starts lately; now might be a time to buy low on him?

[Tuna]

I'd trade Kershaw rather than saving him as a keeper, but would shop him widely. Kershaw is arguably the single most valuable NL fantasy player at trading deadline right now. So you should be able to get the single best value in the league as part of a Kershaw deal. Cole $9 isn't bad, but I think you could do better. Shelby Miller has had a few rough starts lately; now might be a time to buy low on him?

I would even break up the Kershaw/Yadi tandem, you should be able to get 2/3 good keepers for those guys.

[Fresno Bob]

I would even break up the Kershaw/Yadi tandem, you should be able to get 2/3 good keepers for those guys.

This is my thought as well, you are offering up the top pitcher in the NL and one of the top 2 catchers, split them up...

[Judge Jude]

agreed, and it's not like Cole is $1. his upside is real, but he isn't dominating yet. Every owner in the league needs Kershaw; he goes to who shows they want him most.

[overkill94]

agreed, and it's not like Cole is $1. his upside is real, but he isn't dominating yet. Every owner in the league needs Kershaw; he goes to who shows they want him most.

I went over it in the lengthy thread a while back, but the owner with Cole is the one who has all the good keepers. I asked for a $5 Shelby Miller instead and he balked.

There is one other owner with some decent pieces who made this offer:
Z. Wheeler ($5/2014 - could be extended)
M. Ozuna ($5/2015 - could be extended)
J. Satin ($10/2015 - filler)
Maikel Franco ($5/2015+)

for

Kershaw
AGon
Cueto
Jay

I'm not as high on Wheeler or Ozuna as most, but it's still another offer to consider.

[Judge Jude]

that still seems like too much.

I can't believe that both potential buyers are so ballsy as to assume that they can just sit back and clean up - and the other guy won't make a better offer.

one of these guys has to blink, at least a little bit.

I think I would demand Miller and say if the answer is no, thanks for your time and I will politely take my business elsewhere.
I would rather give up more just to get Miller. That's the immediate 2014 prize. Ozuna is raw and doesn't walk, and Cole is developing.

[Mithrandir]

I don't do only leagues, but $40 for Kershaw seems like a decent keeper price for him. Depending on your leagues propensity to pay for studs. I would want more than Miller or Cole for him.

[overkill94]

I don't do only leagues, but $40 for Kershaw seems like a decent keeper price for him. Depending on your leagues propensity to pay for studs. I would want more than Miller or Cole for him.

I guess his price was suppressed a little due to the hip concerns. Hamels went for $38, CLee for $34, Greinke for $28, and Gallardo for $27 (all the other studs were kept). Since my keepers so far are all real cheap (mostly $1) it would be nice to pair them with one expensive stud. Looks like it's time to see what I can get for AGon, Yadi, Cueto, and Jay.

[james33]

Gerrit Cole ($9/2015 and could extend him for $5 per year going into the last year)
for
Kershaw ($40/2015 - any chance that's a keeper price?)
Y. Molina (expiring)

Perhaps substitute Shelby Miller for Cole, but then add Adrian Gonzalez from your end. Expensive, yes, but you end up with the best keeper available.

[Gregg]

I don't do only leagues, but $40 for Kershaw seems like a decent keeper price for him. Depending on your leagues propensity to pay for studs. I would want more than Miller or Cole for him.

I am late to the party, but I agree with Mith. Kershaw is a good keeper at this price. Move your x contracts first. Do not overpay (panic).