Looks like the Biogenesis suspensions are coming

[JudeBaldo]

I hope you Braun owners aren't in a tight race.

@Buccigross: Outside the Lines has learned that MLB is preparing to suspend Alex Rodriguez, Ryan Braun and others connected to Biogenesis

[Bodhizefa]

Shit's about to get crazy in MLB if so. Honestly, all this does is smear the product on the field at this point, and my guess is that this is going to get ugly. I'm not saying steroids are okay, but Selig sure is dragging up a lot of mud just to have his way on this.

[Msaint]

Who of active players (who actually matter -- no, no, sorry, not you ARod) might this affect? Gio? Nelson Cruz?....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/ne ... &eref=sihp

"Among those implicated are New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, outfielder Melky Cabrera of the Toronto Blue Jays, Washington pitcher Gio Gonzalez, Oakland pitcher Bartolo Colon, Texas outfielder Nelson Cruz and San Diego catcher Yasmani Grandal. Most have denied the Biogenesis link, although Rodriguez has admitted using performance-enhancing drugs earlier in his career and Colon, Cabrera and Grandal were each suspended for 50 games last year for testing positive for elevated testosterone levels."

[JudeBaldo]

Who of active players (who actually matter -- no, no, sorry, not you ARod) might this affect? Gio? Nelson Cruz?....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/ne ... &eref=sihp

"Among those implicated are New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, outfielder Melky Cabrera of the Toronto Blue Jays, Washington pitcher Gio Gonzalez, Oakland pitcher Bartolo Colon, Texas outfielder Nelson Cruz and San Diego catcher Yasmani Grandal. Most have denied the Biogenesis link, although Rodriguez has admitted using performance-enhancing drugs earlier in his career and Colon, Cabrera and Grandal were each suspended for 50 games last year for testing positive for elevated testosterone levels."

This has to be the end of A-Rod's career no?

[cleo]

Isn't Cano one of the names that has also come up?

[Pauly]

I thought Braun only used the clinic as some sort of expert witness to help defend himself from the other charge last year. This is about to be just stupid, and every single pundit in this industry said "dont worry about Braun getting suspended, it will never happen"

[Hornsby]

As Braun showed, there's a LONG way to go before anyone is actually suspended for anything. The Union will fight, and likely win, any suspensions that are brought about without a failed test. And since MLB didn't do any testing that we're aware of, all they have is the testimony of an alleged Doctor from a very shady clinic. I'd be surprised if this ends up going anywhere...

[mjl]

from the ESPN article:

"One source familiar with the case said the commissioner's office might seek 100-game suspensions for Rodriguez, Braun and other players, the penalty for a second doping offense. The argument, the source said, is the players' connection to Bosch constitutes one offense, and previous statements to MLB officials denying any such connection or the use of PEDs constitutes another."

That's some bullshit right there.

[Judge Jude]

Would it be wrong for me to hope that 2 of the secret names are Goldschmidt and DomBrown, given that they have given our league leader a 15-pt lead?

[The Dane]

Could not a player like Melky or Grandal simply say that their previous positive test stems from their time at Biogenesis? Could then be suspended twice for the same offense?

[Judge Jude]

Would it be wrong for me to hope that 2 of the secret names are Goldschmidt and DomBrown, given that they have given our league leader a 15-pt lead?

[Sour Masher]

If I lose Braun for the rest of the year, I'm in a very tough place. I hope it doesn't go down like that. All these guys are probably guilty, but I was banking on the fact that MLB couldn't pop them based on names in a ledger and hearsay from a guy with motivation to squeal. I think this sets a dangerous precedent, and not just because I will be burnt if the league is successful in suspending all these players.

[Judge Jude]

from Bob Klapisch

@BobKlap: Told there are "other major, major names" involved in the Biogensis scandal besides A-Rod and Braun.

......

if you're not sure if you're a buyer or a seller, maybe wait a couple of days til the dust settles...

[mgwiz22]

If I lose Braun for the rest of the year, I'm in a very tough place. I hope it doesn't go down like that. All these guys are probably guilty, but I was banking on the fact that MLB couldn't pop them based on names in a ledger and hearsay from a guy with motivation to squeal. I think this sets a dangerous precedent, and not just because I will be burnt if the league is successful in suspending all these players.

This might not be hearsay. It certainly sounds as if the guy will testify as to what he personally did and observed. As to whether or not his testimony is credible that is another story.

[Sour Masher]

This might not be hearsay. It certainly sounds as if the guy will testify as to what he personally did and observed. As to whether or not his testimony is credible that is another story.

Well, I always assumed this guy was in charge, but not someone actually seeing the drugs go into the players, or even someone who directly sells to said players. But I'm reading that there may be other employees cooperating as well, so, yeah, they may have eye witnesses, on top of documents, which would be enough. All of these suspensions will have big impacts on roto and fantasy. If this gets as big as some are reporting, I cannot think of anything like it.