Opinions on trade for Greinke..

[Mithrandir]

11 team...5x5... mixed...$300 draft budget..regular cats and positions...

I deal Rajah Davis ($6) and Axford ($1)

FOR

Greinke ($11)

Thoughts??

Thanks.

[joncarlos]

Is this a pre-draft trade? Who else would you keep since you're doing a 2-for-1?

Davis could steal 50 but has zero power. Axford is a solid mid-level closer. But in a really shallow league you can replace those things. Even missing a couple weeks, Greinke is still elite. And in a shallow league you need elite. So I would lean towards doing it.

[chancellor]

Absolutely. Even with Greinke missing his first 2-3 starts.

[Sam]

Agreed with the other guys. Grienke is the way to go here. I may be swayed the other way if Davis/Axford could be kept for a few years longer but even still, they are more easily replaceable than Grienke.

[Mithrandir]

Thanks guys. Other owner has mentioned Je. Weaver as tradeable too. Weaver would be $14. Who would you prefer Greinke or Weaver?

I didn't have the time to post much more last night.

Davis can be kept in 2012 for $11

Axford can be kept in 2012 for $6 and 2013 for $11

Greinke can be kept in 2012 for $16.

My team right now is this: keepers(4) in Bold. So if i make the deal I will need 3 more keepers. Leaning towards Torres, Br. Wilson and Beltre. So i would have my 8 keepers for $65.

C - John Buck $1
1B - Paul Konerko $3
1B - Adam LaRoche $7
1B-OF - Adam Dunn $27
2B - Brandon Phillips $30
2B - Danny Espinosa $1
3B - Adrian Beltre $12
3B - Edwin Encarnacion $1
2B-SS - Marco Scutaro $1
OF - Rajai Davis $6 *
OF - Ichiro Suzuki $31
OF - Vladimir Guerrero $15
OF - Colby Rasmus $7
OF - Andres Torres $1
SP - Ryan Dempster $13
SP - Chris Carpenter $11 * *
SP - Anibal Sanchez $1
SP - Dallas Braden $1
SP - Mike Pelfrey $1
SP-RP - Colby Lewis $1
RP - Brian Wilson $19 * *
RP - Rafael Soriano $6 *
RP - Hong-Chih Kuo $1
RP - John Axford $1
RP - Joaquin Benoit $1

[joncarlos]

I'd probably take Weaver. Both are similar in that they have one year of greatness and a pretty well established floor that will still help you. I think it's worth the $3. And I think I agree with Wilson, Beltre, Torres for your other keepers.

[Gregg]

I agree with JC on this one.

[madducks]

Yeah, i'd make the trade. Cliff Lee missed his first few starts for me last year, but still provided plenty of value after that. I would expect Greinke to provide similar value in 2011. Although Weaver will probably get you an extra 50 K's so i'd go with Weaver over Greinke. Neither one is a bad option.

Also agree with Beltre and Wilson as keepers. Wilson at $19 is probably around ten bucks less than what he would go for in the draft as proven closers always go for a premium in our league.

Not completely sold on Torres though you can't go wrong for $1. At 33 years old, he may have peaked last season.

If i was going to gamble on anyone for a buck it would be Pelfrey. He only had one bad month last year. And at age 27 he could be turning the corner. He's also thrown 200, 184, & 204 innings the last three years with no major arm problems which would seem to make him low risk injury-wise.

If you are looking for a sure thing, you can always keep Dunn at $27. That's probably still a savings of $5-10 and as close to guaranteed production (40 hr, 100 rbi) as you can get.

[chancellor]

Even as a Brewer homer, I'd take Weaver. But I think that gives you five keepers - Konerko, Rasmus, Carpenter, Lewis, and Weaver/Greinke. I'd keep Beltre and then Dunn. And if you can keep one more past that, Torres for a buck.

[Mithrandir]

Weaver not available. Has to be Greinke.

[Mithrandir]

Yeah, i'd make the trade. Cliff Lee missed his first few starts for me last year, but still provided plenty of value after that. I would expect Greinke to provide similar value in 2011. Although Weaver will probably get you an extra 50 K's so i'd go with Weaver over Greinke. Neither one is a bad option.

Also agree with Beltre and Wilson as keepers. Wilson at $19 is probably around ten bucks less than what he would go for in the draft as proven closers always go for a premium in our league.

Not completely sold on Torres though you can't go wrong for $1. At 33 years old, he may have peaked last season.

If i was going to gamble on anyone for a buck it would be Pelfrey. He only had one bad month last year. And at age 27 he could be turning the corner. He's also thrown 200, 184, & 204 innings the last three years with no major arm problems which would seem to make him low risk injury-wise.

If you are looking for a sure thing, you can always keep Dunn at $27. That's probably still a savings of $5-10 and as close to guaranteed production (40 hr, 100 rbi) as you can get.

But for all those innings Pelfrey gives you, you get a crappy WHIP with very low K's. No thanks. I'd keep Sanchez before Pelfrey.